942: Why Your Friend Group Might Be Holding You Back

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Speaker 1  1:42  
love it, man, it's I've been so good. Thanks so much for asking. How you been

Brian Nichols  1:47  
busy, busy, busy. We're recording here today. What Monday night, I'm going to be in Philadelphia tomorrow, New York City, the next day, Cleveland, the next week, Des Moines, Iowa, the week after Boston, the week after so other than that, not busy at all, Josh, but you know what keeps me going some cardio miracle, let's be real. Heck

Speaker 1  2:04  
yeah, man, that's awesome. How's I was going to ask you, you said, the the beautiful the beautiful Indiana. Where was it? What's the weather like out there?

Brian Nichols  2:13  
Oh, man, you know it was sunny about five minutes ago, and then we hit record, the grace, great. Clouds came in and the skies just disappeared. So they must have known I was getting ready to say, beautiful, sunny Indiana. And they're like, that's awesome, Josh. I am so excited for our conversation. My man, um, now for folks who are playing along in the home game, maybe they didn't check out our last episode. So folks, you gotta go all the way back to let's see, December 24 so Christmas Eve, we had our episode released. There, Josh, where you were telling the story of how you used to weigh 470 pounds, and then you said, Hey, don't sleep. On walking, you started taking literal first steps, right to a better health journey. And it was funny ways we were talking. We kind of heard that you and I had very similar stories. You lost 180 pounds. I lost 180 pounds. So I think you know the audience as they listen to that episode, if they didn't, by the way, go back and check it out over on the YouTubes and over on the podcast versions. But that episode in particular, you and I really found that not only is it taking that first step right, but also keeping going with the steps. And this is something I know we're going to talk about a little bit more in detail today, but I've noticed this over the past, you know, 10 years, specifically, as I have been living in this healthier, you know, type of world that I've in myself. Um, a lot of folks kind of go in with the mentality. Josh of, okay, I need to lose 20 pounds, 40 pounds, 120 pounds, 180 pounds, whatever the number may be. And they have this number, they put it on a calendar. They say, by this date, and this time I will weigh this much, meaning I have lost X number of pounds, or I have gained X number of muscle mass, right? But then what happens? They hit it or they don't hit it, and then they say, I did it. And then what they sit back, they say, I'm done. And I've seen this, you know, my members, my family, my grandmother, for example, she had gastric bypass, not once, but twice, and each time in her head, she said, I did it. I did the hard part, except she didn't, because she didn't change her lifestyle, and she gained all the weight back. And I guess you know this is going to be the theme for today's conversation, Josh, is finish what you started. Right? It's not a matter of just simply taking that first step, but continuing forward even after you've accomplished the original goal you set forth. So we're going to dig into this a little bit more, but just from kind of the onset here of the the theme of the show, Josh, give me some of your context and your perspective, because you're living this. I've been living this right over the past 1520, years. On my end, I know this is more recent for you and the weight loss journey. So what are you seeing when it comes to the whole finish? What you started when you're looking at your. Own weight loss in particular. Yeah.

Speaker 1  5:01  
Well, like we were talking about earlier, it's, you know, from 2022 till 2024 I went super hard. I was, I walked seven, over 7 million steps during the year. I was like, 25,000 30,000 a day kind of thing, changing my shoes every four to six weeks. And then once I hit this weight that I was pretty comfy at, I was 280 and I was like, Oh my gosh, I haven't been here for a decade. I feel amazing. I cracked open the bin of my two XL shirts, and I didn't look like I was wearing bed sheets or whatever, and, and it was my 5x 6x shirts. And and then I just got real comfy. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a well earned break that I felt was well earned. And then immediate, it almost seemed like immediately, I went from 280, to 325, again. And I was like, I woke up one day after a couple months of taking it easy, and I was like, Man, why didn't I finish what I start? I got to finish what I started, and keep pushing. Because that's the thing. Is, they say that, you know, I see some memes, I see some funny memes about the gym, and it says, you know, feeling down and depressed, because now that I've gotten in this incredible shape, I realize that I've got to keep I've got to keep it, I've got to maintain it, and I've got to keep pushing forward. And like you said, the theme of the show finishing what you started, right? So I realized that I had to do that and start again. And I, you know, I got right back on it. I started walking again. And I actually invested in a peloton. And I started, I started getting on the bike. And so I start my morning with a ride, and then I end my evening with a with a walk, so that. And in between, I try to do the weights, you know. So it's, it's a, it's a heavy day, but it's just, it's, you need, I need to step up to what, you know, what level I was at now, you know, keep going,

Brian Nichols  7:19  
what's the man I'm going to butcher the quote, but it's like, if you expect I'm going to butcher it. It was like, if you expect the same type of outcomes, keep putting in the same types of or you expect the different types of results, putting the different types of outcomes or inputs. It's something like that. But like, it kind of goes into what you're hitting on here, right? We almost become little robots. We hear in our head like, okay, beat, bop boop, I did this thing. Beat, bop boop, it turned into this, okay, keep doing that, right? But kind of to what you're talking about here, the whole finishing what you started. It's not that you keep doing the same things, but also, like, it's going to change, right? And I think my in laws, for example, they're both nurses. And I know my I think my father in law in particular, he was getting like, 20,000 steps a day just from the nature of being a nurse. And yet, you know, it's not a matter of, like, he's ever dealing with, like, you know, being morbidly obese or anything. But like, you know, I know for him, it was a matter of number one, tired, right? I'm already doing that many steps a day, but that's my status quo, right? Now. I have to take another extra step to start doing some more if I want to see tangible results, because my body gets used to it. My body kind of gets into that like that, that homeostasis of, okay, this is the new normal. We're taking 30,000 steps a day, and we're going through a pair of shoes every four to six weeks, right? Like that becomes the new status quo. That becomes the new norm. But to to keep progressing forward, your new norm now becomes the baseline, very much like your baseline was back when you first started at 470 pounds, right? But your goal was never to maintain the 470 The goal was always to pursue something different. And I guess that right there it's the recalculating your goals. And talk to me, Josh, like, how have you found specifically from a goal perspective? Like, what's been some of the hardest things you've had to come across? Because I know I had trouble setting goals myself, and I'll, you know, very black and white. One of the main things for me is that I don't know, like, what to put in place as a goal to challenge myself sometimes, like, I think, like, oh, I can rip out five reps at a heavier weight. Awesome. Should I go heavier? Right? Like, stuff, like, I get lost in my own head. So what are some of the challenges you face when it comes to, like, surpassing your existing goals, or, you know, just reevaluating goals in general. Yeah,

Speaker 1  9:45  
I love that. So going back to the saying, I think you were looking for insanity. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. Is that

Brian Nichols  9:57  
a long day? Josh, thanks. Yeah.

Speaker 1  10:00  
Yeah, I just want to make sure, because I was doing that, I was doing the same thing over and over again. I was yo yo dieting, and I was expecting a different result, until I decided to take my health into my own hands and really do it. And a lot of that has been surrounded with goal setting. And my brother, Jason, actually the president of cardia miracle, he talks about making promises to yourself, because he says, If you don't hit a goal, you just set another one, but if you break a promise to yourself, that's a one and done. And so I started putting on my whiteboard the promises to myself, and making sure that I was promising myself that I was going to wake up every single morning and jump on the bike, and, you know, whether I wanted to or not, whether I had a good sleep or not, whether I felt rested or whatnot. I I just, I do. I get up, I get on there, and doesn't matter what time it is, and I do it, and whether I have, like, an incredible output day, or I just kind of chill on the bike, so to speak, at least, I get on there every day and so and then I was told, I was challenged that the reason why the walking isn't being as impactful as it was when I was 474, 80 was the fact that I have taken off so much weight that my body's not having to work as hard to to carry all that around. And so what I did is I invested in myself, and I got an 80 pound vest that I throw on my shoulders, and I go out and I walk with this 80 pound vest on, and it sucks, but I, you know, I do it, and I do that, and then, and then I hit the gym in the middle of the day, whenever I can. And so I started incorporating weight lifting and and I but when I felt like I was comfortable and I could go back to eating those, those little pints of Ben and Jerry's ice cream like, you know, whenever I felt like I deserved it because I ate well that day, like I just I can't do that. I can't go back to those old habits, you know. And I have to press forward and make sure that I'm challenging myself every day and but that was the biggest shift, paradigm shift for me was I started making promises to myself instead of just making goals. And the promise aspect really, really kind of put me in this other level of like I'm making this promise to myself, to my children, that I'm going to be here for them and that I'm going to be around for them to be at their graduation, or walk walk my daughters down the aisle or whatnot. So

Brian Nichols  12:51  
the important stuff, the stuff that actually matters, right? Like we in our world today, it's so easy to get fixated and frustrated over the whatever the headline news is, and when you really look at the stuff that actually matters, like that is what you just hit it on right there, Josh, like it is the promise to yourself, the promise to your family, that you're gonna be there, right? And that's just something you really you can't, you can't put into like, an ROI spreadsheet, right? Like I work in the tech space all day long. This is the stuff I do. And, you know, I deal in ROI conversations on the daily. But when you look at the ROI of just like a family with a dad versus without a dad, there's no number. There is no number that you could put on the value of that presence, of just being there and and, you know, you mentioned the setting, the promise to yourself, to others, versus just the goal. Yeah, because it's it's a lot harder to break a promise than it is just to break some theoretical goal that you slapped on a calendar or you toss onto a whiteboard, right? And like you also touched on something Josh, I do want to just, you know, pivot a little bit towards. And this is this idea of rewards, like, I have a kid, I have a two year old, and this is something, you know, my wife and I are having to deal with as well, is like, how do you encourage positive behaviors? And I don't want to be the dad who I turn into the, you know, I turn into the candy store every time you do something good or something something, here's your your fruit snacks, or here's your chips or your crackers, right? Like, I don't want food to be a reward mechanism. And by the way, Mom and Dad, this is not critique of you, but, like, because that was something for me as I was growing up, like, Hey, if you're good, we'll go to McDonald's. Like, oh, man, you you score that game winning touchdown, we'll go to McDonald's or Burger King. Like, and that was exciting, right? Like, I remember the joy of, oh, we're gonna go get some. And different, something dirty, nasty, naughty, like that, because it tastes good. But when we're adults, and there is no mom or dad that are saying, hey, great job. Here's your reward, right? We end up rewarding ourselves, and we end up kind of going back to what we know, right? Josh, and I'm guilty as this as much I'm, you know, you were talking about the Ben and Jerry's pint of ice cream. I don't got a sweet tooth, salt and savory tooth, right? So, like, for me, yeah, it's like, oh, pizza, yeah. Like, let's get some chips and pizza. Or, like, you know, chicken wings. Like, I'll go for that all day long. And and yet, we have to think of different ways to reward ourselves, because if we keep on rewarding ourselves with the very things that brought us to where we are at the onset, we're going to keep back to the definition of the quote that you much more articulately presented than I we keep doing the same thing over and over again, hoping that we're going to get a different result. Well, I'm sorry, that is textbook definition of insanity. So Josh, let me take that little monolog and turn it into a question. What are some of the things you found that have been healthy rewards that have helped you take that next step here and there, where you can versus, I did something great. Let's eat the Ben and Jerry's, or let's eat the pizza. What have you found? Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1  16:22  
I'm like, bruising my shoulder, because I do this a lot, you know, I tap myself on the pat myself on the back. But no, I know what I do is because I, I work so much, and because I'm kind of, you know, married to my job, so to speak, is that I I give myself a reward system where I'm like, I'm going to take a day or an afternoon and I'm going to go for a hike, you know, I'm going to go hike mount tip in August or something here in Utah, or I'm going to go hike here, or go for a five or seven mile walk, because that's going to take two and a half hours, you know, just walking, just kind of, just kind of chilling, not not power walking, none of that. But also it could be like, you know, it was actually kind of fun. Is, I didn't know that my kids were, like, down with, like, going bowling with me, because I used to love bowling, you know, and kind of got out of that as an adult, but I was, I said to my kids, I was like, Hey, you guys, listen, I lost 10 pounds this week. Like, you want to go bowling? And they're like, What are you? That's awesome. And so we went. We had a fun time at fat cats, just bowling and and of course, they wanted all the pizza and everything, which is fine, but like with me, all I want to do was just bowl, like, unlimited for the the whole night. You know, it was, it was kind of interesting to have these different reward systems of like, doing something active and hanging out with my kids and and now that I've got two teenagers now, like, it's kind of wild, you know, being 40 years old and having two teenagers that I'm trying to figure out how they can still think I'm kind of cool to hang out with me, you know. So that that for me is more of a challenge in itself than just going and eating a bunch of ice cream or pizza. Yeah?

Brian Nichols  18:17  
Well, and by the way, like you and I both being dads, we always are fearful of the infamous Dad Bod, right? Like, and that for me. And maybe it's, it's been not as much in my purview, because I keep, and this is, again, where I have to get better. I keep in my head going back to, Well, dude, you're not 385 pounds anymore. Like, okay, that's a that's a step in the right direction, but that's not, that's not how I need to approach things. Like I need to reframe the way that I am looking at, I guess, my expectations of myself, because when, when I think to who I used to be, specifically from a weight perspective, right? Like it, it's not the same person. It's like I've lived two or three different lives, and kind of like the starting off point where that person was to where I am today. As a dad, you know, trying to avoid the infamous bad the dad bod, the bad dog that too. Like trying to avoid that, I have to now, in my head, reframe that bat. I keep on doing a bad, dot Dad Bod isn't a good thing, right? Like, back when I was 385, pounds, Josh, I would have loved to have a dad bod. I was like Dad Bod more like dad slob over here. Put that down. Yeah, there's a quote you had the good, don't sleep on walking. I got the dad bod to Dad slob. But, like, in my head, right? That's kind of like, where the old starting off point was, and now I look at like, okay, don't be, don't have a dad bod. Well, that's so wrong with that. No, a lot's wrong with that because that's a different like, it's all contextual, and that's that. Guess that's the answer, right? It's all based on the context of where you started to where you are. And by the way, I bet that's why so many folks, as they go through a weight loss journey or a health journey or something, they're in, why they end up hitting those proverbial speed bumps, right? Or why they end up going into the valley of sadness and despair because they've hit whatever goal they thought, and then it's like, oh, well, to go to the next step, I have to now reevaluate everything from a different perspective of not where I was, but where I am. And that's tough.

Speaker 1  20:32  
Totally, yeah, and stepping up, and then you've got to step up even higher and kind of bring yourself to this other level. And I never got more criticism. And there were no like, it was an unlimited amount, I think I said this in the last one that we did of health advice and health experts that were telling me what I was doing was dangerous when I was intermittent fasting for 20 hours a day, seven days a week. I mean, like people were concerned that I was just not going to wake up because I was starving myself. And I'm like, I've never I feel like a superhero. Are you serious? Like I was like, but no one gave me crap when I was pounding an entire Stuffed Crust Pizza by myself. And so what, what I've always had at my the cornerstone of my life, which has been nice, just for my entire journey, was, you know, was cardio miracle, obviously, and the the whole fruits and vegetables and taking my health into my own hands and making sure that, and even when I was 474, 80, my blood pressure was still regulated. And the doctor would look at me and he'd take my blood pressure four or five times and be like, what, yeah. And I would say, oh, you know, I supplement. And he's like, with what? And so I mean this truly, like this product, that cardio miracle is such a gift that, you know, it's called, from some people, it's called The Great mogul in life to help make sure that you're still getting the blood flow, make sure that your body's regulating, which is fine to a point, but then, when you do want to be at that optimal health and make sure that you not only will be around for your children or your family or your work or whatever, whatever your motivation is, that you're the the best, most optimal human being that you can possibly be. And that's what I wanted to be. I wanted to be a pinnacle of health. When people looked at me that I wanted to people to be like, Whoa. That guy takes care of himself, you know. And that was, that was my goal. It wasn't a vain goal. It was just I wanted to be a product of the product. I wanted to be around for my children, and I wanted to, I wanted to be at this high level when I was like, looking to date again, and one accident, went through another divorce, and I was like, if I'm going to put myself out there again, I want to be at my top level so that I can attract that from the the opposite sex. And so I have, and it's been amazing. And now I'm actually recently engaged again, so I'm like, Mr. Like, and her and I, like, are living this, like, top shelf, top level, kind of, you know, we want to keep rising to each other's top level, which is really exciting and a really cool, really cool goal to just keep reaching for and and keep pressing so that we're we're not complacent. You know, it's pretty awesome. Well,

Brian Nichols  23:47  
and like, I used to hear folks in the business space always would give crap to guys who would go and waste their money going to these mastermind groups, right? Like, Oh, why are you going to that event there, Mike, like, you don't think you can figure it out on your own, and that's not the case at all. And the more I've you know, gotten into the health and fitness world, the more that's become apparent to me. And on top of that, in the business world as well, because, like, it's not a matter of, I'm looking for you to tell me what to do successful person, but yet, in finance and business or in health, right? Like, I'm instead looking to see what you're you're doing now, right? What do you what are the things you're doing today? What are the healthy habits that you've incorporated into your daily routines that I could learn from? Right? And it's not a matter of going up and saying, like, all right, Bill has it figured out. Copy and Paste his routine into my routine. I'm going to live my life as Bill, which, by the way, I see far too many folks do that. And you know what the inevitable outcome of that is, Josh, they're going to crash and burn. Why? Because you're not bill, you're you, you're Josh, you're Brian, you're Matt, whoever it may be. And that's the part that you have to take away, is that it's not a matter of just copying and pasting what other. Successful people have done, but most importantly, taking piece of the pieces of those different puzzles and putting them together for you, and understanding where you're at, but also looking at where you can be and the where you can be can sometimes be aloof, right? It's like, how do I figure out what I can be when the only context I have is what I've been and the best way to do that is to talk to people who are either achieving or have accomplished the very thing you are setting out to achieve or accomplish. And guess what? They're not setting their goal and saying, did it all done? They're setting another goal, right? They're going to the next step. So to have that mastermind group of other other folks who are pushing each other further. Like this is no secret to folks who know me, who listen to the show in my personal life, but like my friend, circle has changed dramatically over the past 10 years, over the past five years, specifically during COVID, right? And for a little bit there probably, like a year and a half, two year period, it really bothered me, like, I was like, Damn guys, like, Where'd y'all go? And then I realized just all of a sudden, Josh, I was in different groups with different people, having much different conversations in the best of ways. Right Like now, instead of talking about people talking about processes, and instead of talking about, like, the things we can complain about. We're talking about things that we can actually control and things we can achieve. And once you start to surround yourself with different folks, the conversations are different in the best of ways. Have you noticed that as well? Oh

Speaker 1  26:32  
my heck, yeah. I love that. I love that leveling up, man, that's, see, that's what I want, that's, that's what I've been like yearning for, and that's the kind of level that I want to hold myself to, and not because I think I'm better than anybody else, but because I want to continue to level up provide for my kids and make sure I'm the best partner that you know, that that has ever been, and so that I love what you said there, because it's so true. When people, you know, my my parents always just tell me, you know, don't hang out with those kids, because you're going to become them or whatever, like it was, you know, I kind of look at it now, and I'm as a father, and I'm like, kind of true, you know, it's like the people that you're surrounding yourself with the you know that you're going to kind of match and and do what they do and and whatnot. And it's, it's, it's something that I really try to incorporate in my life and make sure that I'm living at that higher level and and really pushing for my kids to to make sure they're surrounding themselves with the right people as well. So I love that you're doing that that's like, that is like the ultimate like, that is the ultimate like looking at you and seeing what kind of person you are. I can tell that you are always trying to one up like yourself, not anybody else, just one up yourself and make sure that you hold yourself to the highest level. That's really admirable.

Brian Nichols  28:05  
Thank you, man. Well, and, like, elephant in the room, it sucks sometimes. Like, there are times where I'll, I'll, you know, set some expectation for myself, and it it's hard, right? Like, it's very tough to to hit those metrics that you're putting in place for yourself and they're supposed to be. And I think that's the thing too. Like, I in the world of business, I am what we call a channel manager, right? So I work with all these different technology advisors, and I help enable them to sell new stuff. And, like, I have this partner program for these different technology advisors where we call it a stretch goal, right? Like, hey, if you're bringing us two qualified opportunities per calendar quarter, we're gonna pay you $5,000 a quarter, right? Like, oh, okay, but that's not necessarily easy. Like giving giving two opportunities to a contact center company every single quarter. Like, okay, we'll see what happens. But that's why it's called a stretch goal, right? It's not meant to say, like, Hey, you are going to be easily able to do this every single quarter, quarter in, quarter out, but I want you to work for it, right? Because you see the value and having stretch goals, both in business but also in life, are so important. Like, I know I'm probably not going to go and run a marathon anytime soon, right? But, hey, Josh, maybe I'll go and, you know, walk, jog, try to run a 5k right? Like that's something that I can start to stretch goal a little bit to say, Okay, let's start to aim towards something. And then, who knows, maybe I find I can do the 5k pretty easy. Well, not easy anymore. I used to not anymore, but maybe I get more comfortable with with the 5k and then I say, Okay, let's add some miles to this. And also, I'm running a half marathon. Well, all of a sudden, a full marathon doesn't sound too crazy, right? Even though it does sound crazy. I'm saying it today, but it's the stepping stone. Right? It's going from where you are to where you're going to be, to where you can be. And this is, like the part I get so frustrated, both with folks in the world of business, but also just in the world of life, is that there it's it's very difficult to have time preference. And by the way, okay, take my economics hat and put that on for a second time preference. And my friend Dorian, who's a, you know, he's an economist out there, he's gonna be loving this. Um, when we talk about time preference, it's very difficult economic, in the term of world of economics, to appreciate a sacrifice, or, you know, a whatever it may be today, based on a not necessarily even tomorrow, but next week, two months, three months down the road, a year down the road, to see a positive outcome from that, right? So when I sit down, Josh and I eat the pizza, right? Like you used to eat the cheesy bread stuff, crust pizza, you didn't see tomorrow, I've gained 2040, 70 pounds, but when it's cheesy pizza. Cheesy pizza. Cheesy pizza, once every other day, every day, every week, whatever it may be that adds up and and like, all of a sudden, you look back four months now and say, What? What happened? It's like, well, all those little decisions we were making, they add up. And from a time preference standpoint, now, here we are. We're seeing the outcomes. So it's tough for us to make these decisions today, because we're not going to see the immediate return on our investment tomorrow. It's going to take time, especially when it comes to our personal health. So the fact that you know anybody who's listening to today, if you find yourself sitting saying, I need to make a change, well, congratulations. You're doing, literally the hardest part, because it's so difficult to say, I need to make a change, and I'm gonna do something about it. That's the first part. But let's bring this home, right? But that's just part one, right? That's just part one. You have to keep going. You have to finish what you started, right? And that means seeing what can be and even though it might take time, it might take an extra week, it might take an extra month. Hey, it might take an extra year. Keep going, because you will see the return. I mean, here, well, you know what, Josh will get super real for a second before hit this record button. You and I were having a little bit of a side conversation about the numbers for the show, and you were looking you're like, you're getting, like, on YouTube, between four to 6k per show. That's pretty darn cool. Yep, it is pretty darn cool. But you know what? I was sitting there looking at my numbers about three years ago, and I'm thinking, five, 714, views. What? What is this? Rewind to 2018, when I first launched the podcast. Same thing. I'm like, I'm yelling at this microphone. Who's listening, but where I am today. I mean, my last episode I had with Patrick hedger, we were talking about deep seek and the AI that was coming from that 13,000 views over on YouTube, right? I go to the back office metrics, and I'm seeing, like, I've gone up hundreds of 1000s or hundreds of 1000s, but like, hundreds of percentiles up with my Show podcast downloads, where we're getting like, 25 30,000 downloads a month. And that for me, it's like, okay, time out. If I were to tell myself that in 2018 I would laugh and be like, that sounds great. And here I am in 2025 but it didn't happen overnight. And that's, by the way, why so many podcasts just go away. Because they see the numbers. They get burnt out. They say, What am I doing this for? Right? And they just quit. Um, but just keeping on, keeping, you know, just being consistent, being persistent in your consistency, that has been what, at least I found the the secret sauce in both, you know, business and in health and in life. But, uh, Hey, Josh, you, you, you see things, obviously, on your end as well. Is there anything I'm missing, as we're kind of wrapping up the book end of the conversation, before we start talking a little bit more about, yes, the best heart health supplement in the world, cardio miracle.

Speaker 1  33:51  
No, I love it. Thank you. And I love this. All this stuff is going through my head while you're talking. And I had this book that I read, and I probably sold, I probably sold, like, 100 like maybe 100,000 copies of it as as a reseller. It was called this the slight edge, and it's written by Jeff Olson. And it's a, it's a kind of a multi level marketing book, or whatever, but he talks about doing the easy things that are both easy to do and easy not to do. And, you know, he says, like putting on your seat belt, super easy to do when you get in the car, but it's also easy not to do. And gets kind of annoying to have the chime going off, but eventually it goes off and, you know, or he talks about brushing her teeth, you know, it's super easy to do, super easy not to do, but if you don't do it over time, the compounding interest is going to catch up to you, and then you're going to lose all your teeth. I mean, it's, it's just like this. And it was just like, my, my walking in the beginning. And I was like, You. Easy to do, easy not to do. You can literally walk anywhere, anywhere. And I mean at night, when I was so obsessed with my steps, every night, on my watch, I would literally pace back and forth in my living room and my fiance now, like when I'm at when we're watching a movie, like I will get up before midnight and I will pace back and forth to make sure I hit my 15,000 steps a day. And she's just like, she's like, Babe, come on, you know? And so it's just, it's amazing, but those little things that are both easy to do and easy not to do, as long as we continue to make those good choices to do them, like, how much further ahead are we going to be? And, yes, the time is going to pass anyways. So it's like, you know, who cares how long it takes?

Brian Nichols  35:48  
Preach, preach well. And by the way, you mentioned compounding interest. Let's talk about the compounding interest, Josh of taking cardio miracle every morning and every night. Because elephant in the room, by the way, it is heart or National Heart Health Month here in the the good old fashioned us of a cardio miracle here. Let's see, I got my old here, here, Josh, you'll appreciate this. I got the old

Speaker 1  36:11  
the old tub here, you guys got rid of it.

Brian Nichols  36:15  
You went to bags. I I see cardio miracle as a tool in the proverbial tool belt, right? I'm going to take a step back. It is the best heart health supplement in the world, folks, but it's not a magic pill, right? It's not going to solve all your world's problems. It's not going to solve hunger over in Kenya, like none of that stuff. But what it will do is, if you are consistent, and you take cardio miracle every morning and every night, I guarantee, based on my anecdotal evidence, mind you, that you will see some types of outcomes. And in my example, I saw a resting heart rate just drop incredible. I was blown away. My blood pressure went from like 190 or Yeah, like it was like one or not 190 I did this last time is 140 over 90. There we go. I always get the numbers all together, 140 over 90 to 120 over 80. And that was huge for me, because I was told by my doctor you have a family history of high blood pressure. So sorry. And like for me to see that the compounding interest of taking cardio miracle not only help my blood pressure, help my heart rate, help with my sleeping help with getting a better pump at the gym, all because of nitric oxide, right? And the super supplementation that is the background and the backbone of cardio miracle. So Josh, I've told the audience a million and a half times here in the show why I am such a fan, but alas, I am just one meager podcast host with a microphone. I yell at least once a week. So to the folks out there that you are talking to here on the show, who you've heard, what 1000s of success stories at cardio miracle kind of paint the picture right? Like, yes, there's the big guys over here, like you and I, who we've lost 180 pounds, and it's good for us, but who else is cardio miracle good for? And what have you seen from outcomes, from folks who said, You know what, let's give this cardio miracle thing a try.

Speaker 1  38:08  
You know, so interesting. I just came back from Texas. I was at, I was at this big conference for the week, and I had a couple of people actually come up to me, and they're like, I want to get this again. I want to you guys were here back in 2023 and last year 2024 I didn't order last year, but I want to order again. And I look at their order history, and it was back in 2023 where they ordered, and they want to do in another 90 days, or a 90 serving supply. And I was straight up with them. I said, I appreciate that you want to take advantage of our special that we're doing at the show, but I want to be real with you that if you are going through a 90 day supply from 2023 to 2025 you're wasting your money. And although we do say that any nitric oxide is better than no nitric oxide. The The point is is taking it every single day and making sure that you're getting the optimal result, which we have tested, is two full servings of cardio miracle a day. And but for other people that aren't as tall or as big or as active, then one scoop a day would be sufficient, and it's everyone's serving. So it depends on what people are trying to accomplish, but if people like the taste and they're like, hey, I want to take this for 90 days every two years, then, you know, that's, I guess that's fine, but it's kind of an expensive little, you know, thing that they want to try or whatever, but it's and maybe, you know, maybe these people, like I had one of the guys say to me that he goes, Yeah, you know, I want to start again, and I'm going to be consistent. But. Thank you for being honest. Because this, this really shows me that you're just not slinging a product like you really care about people. And I said, I do. I really want you to accomplish your goals and accomplish whatever you're trying to accomplish by even ordering. And that's the thing, is that we encourage people to take it in the morning, in the evening, if they can, or the afternoon, or I tell people to take two servings together if they want to take two servings together to have it more tart. That's what I do. I love taking two servings at a time and and so it just depends on on what you're trying to accomplish. Now, me. I want my blood pressure to stay regulated from my body at all times it's 106 over 60 was the last time I checked last week, and my resting heart rate last night was 40, actually 315 pounds. And my resting heart rate was 40 beats, and

Brian Nichols  41:03  
I thought mine was low, right now, yeah, I don't look it

Unknown Speaker  41:04  
up and make sure I was okay.

Unknown Speaker  41:08  
Have a pulse,

Speaker 1  41:11  
yeah? And this, this guy told when I said, this guy at the conference, he goes, Are you a salamander? Like, you have no

Brian Nichols  41:19  
that's crazy, Josh. Just like, doesn't move for a little bit of time. He has to roll over to the sun to warm up and say hello to somebody. Yeah,

Speaker 1  41:27  
I actually Googled it, and Google said, yeah, it's, you know, 40 is like the resting heart rate of like a professional athlete or college athlete. And that's exciting for someone who likes to throw heavy weights around, and who likes to intermit fast? I mean, that's just what I and walk, you know, and that's what I do. So it the thing is, is the, the only reason I feel like my resting heart rate is at 40 and that I can do 7 million over 7 million steps a year is the fact that I take cardio miracle religiously every single day, and I never miss, and I won't ever miss, because I'm kind of, I'm kind of nervous to miss, to be honest, but because I feel so fantastic when I'm on The product, it's, it's just something that has totally just enhanced my life in every way, shape and form.

Brian Nichols  42:27  
It's my non negotiable, right? Like, if I'm going on a trip somewhere, like I'm going to Philadelphia tomorrow and New York the next day, like it will be in my bag. It will be coming with me to Philadelphia and New York, because I need it. It's a part of my day. And you know, it will, this will be my final thoughts, Josh, and I'll turn it over to you to bring us home. It's not just folks who you're trying to fix something, right? You know, I was talking to one of my customers here for for Cartoon miracle. Actually, they're listener to the show. They support the show. And Darryl, thanks for supporting the show. And I was talking to Daryl, and Daryl was like, Yeah, I take cardio miracle because I'm older. He's in his I think, late 60s, early 70s. And he's like, I want to not only enjoy my remaining years, if possible. I'd like to extend them, right? I would like to have a longer life. And as we get older and you start to think more about our own mortality, it is definitely something that I have noticed becoming a dad. Like I never really thought about my own mortality until my daughter was born, I was like, holy shit. I gotta make sure I'm around forever for her, right? Like it's not even matter, just like I need to be there for her when she graduates. I need to make sure I'm there until when she walks on the aisle, it's like, no, no, I'm there. Until the long haul, like I need to make sure I am here. And it's not even for me. It's because of what I'm able to represent for my family. And going back to what we talked about earlier, right? Like there is no, there is no dollar amount you can put on the ROI of time that you have with your family relative to the time you wouldn't, and on the flip side, right, there is no ROI to show the hurt of you not being there versus the non hurt of you being there. It is something that I never want anybody to experience. I don't want my family to experience. I know you don't want your family to experience, Josh, and that is why we've taken some very concrete steps, both in terms of what we're doing from an activity standpoint, but also from a supplementation standpoint, to start putting the right things in place, doing the physical activity, taking the cardio miracle, morning and evening like these are the basics for me, at least, to have a healthier lifestyle. So for any folks who are listening, they're curious about cardio miracle. They want to learn more. Well, over my shoulder, you see that little QR code. You watch us here on the video version of the show. Give it a scan. It'll bring you to cardiomyocol.com discount applied for 15% off your order. And if you're an audio listener and you're like, I'm not scanning any QR codes, what QR code is that? Nichols, I don't trust you, that's fine. Go to cardiomyocol dot. Com, use code TBN s at checkout, you'll get that 15% off your order again. I cannot say enough of how much I love the cardio miracle product. I love the cardio miracle team, and I genuinely cannot say this enough. It is a life changer. So that's my final thoughts for today. Josh, what do you have for us on your your end as we bring us at home today.

Speaker 1  45:22  
Awesome. Yeah, the, you know, the MaHA movement, the Make America healthy again. Movement is, is a huge one. But like you were saying, it's not just for reactive or it's not just to fix something it, you know, what were, what are big charges for 2025 is, is helping the younger demographic realize that as they start thinking more prevention, rather than reactive, then you know, that's exactly what nitric oxide will do for these young People, is it'll help with prevention, it'll help with people staying vibrant, people staying young. And when I was interviewing my sister the other day, she's She's always talking about how all of her friends are obsessed with these collagen products to make them look younger and make them whatever. And that is so funny, because we call cardio miracle, the fountain of youth, because it actually helps your skin to hydrate. It helps the wrinkles. It helps all and it's, it's just a all around amazing product, 58 holes in organic. Josh

Brian Nichols  46:35  
is actually 74 years old. You'd never have no wrinkles,

Speaker 2  46:39  
no Rick, no wrinkle. That's how good it is. And I'm going to the gym every day at a vlog of seven. It's incredible. It's truly incredible. So, yeah,

Speaker 1  46:48  
58 whole and organic fruits and vegetables, and we, I'm just telling you, it's, it's a product that, if you know, we have a 60 day money back guarantee that is taking taken advantage of less than 1% of the time. So this, this product, you know, prove us wrong. You know, tell us, you know, tell us how you're feeling. Let us know. If you email us as support at cardia miracle.com anyone can help you with any questions. You have deep questions, you have super specific questions we get all the questions we have over we have almost 50,000 customers. I've personally spoken to more than half, and I love them. I love you guys, and I love what you're doing here. Brian, thank you so much for your support. Man, appreciate

Brian Nichols  47:35  
you, buddy. Hey, two months. Two months. It's all it took for me to see the results myself, like 140 over 90 to the 120 over 80. And I said, Okay, John, I'm on board, John, by the way, for folks joining along in the home game, that's Josh's dad, John Hewlett, owner and founder of cardio miracle. And that was it. That was the the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, finger that pushed the dominoes over whatever metaphor or analogy you want to use today. By all means, feel free. But I cannot emphasize enough how much I am a fan of cardio miracle. I am a promoter of cardio miracle because it works so to all my audience who's out there, which I can confidently and proudly say is in the 10s of 1000s. Folks, please go ahead, give cardio miracles some love. When you do, I guarantee your heart will thank you, and your piggy bank will thank you as well. If you use code TV and s at checkout for 15% off your order, or for any of you watching the YouTubes or the video version again, QR code over my shoulder or head down below into the show notes, click the link, it'll bring you right over to cardiomyocol.com I believe with discount code already applied. So with that, Josh again, this is like just another bookend to a chapter in another conversation I know we will continue to have here on the show. Thank you for all the work you guys are doing over at cardio miracle. And yes, it is a Heart Health Month. So please go ahead and support your heart health with some cardio miracle. Again, all links in the show notes. But with that being said, we're gonna go ahead and wrap things up. So Brian Nichols signing off here on The Brian Nichols Show for Josh Hewlett from cardio miracle. We'll see you next time you.

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