852: The Future of the Libertarian Party - 2024 & Beyond

Brian Nichols  0:08  
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Larry Sharpe  1:25  
I am crazy, I think I don't know. I just keep doing this. One of the top. I don't know, I just keep doing it. I don't know. It's

Brian Nichols  1:34  
great. Larry. Larry, I could have told you. You're crazy just for getting involved in libertarian politics. Now you're running for the VP spot, not the second time, but the third time. So there's a lot to unpack here. Now. Let's just address the elephant in the room. Right. Since you were last in the show. Our show has been blowing up left and right. We've been having lots of brand new folks joining the audience. So candidly, some folks maybe haven't heard of you before, Larry. What are they doing? So let's do this a quick Larry Sharpe story, obviously going back to your entries of libertarian politics and where we are today,

Larry Sharpe  2:09  
for those who somehow living under a rock and don't know how famous I am. But no, I guess I am kind of famous in the libertarian world, right? If you kind of hang around the Libertarian Party world, you might know who I am. I first got involved in politics in 2012, with Gary Johnson, when I was just tired of the other parties. And I finally heard him speak and thought this is the guy. And that got me involved. But at that point I wasn't involved in like running, I was basically supporting people writing checks, I wrote checks to help buy the building that we the party bought in Virginia, those types of things. 2014, I was supporting our governor candidate here in New York, helping him out driving around the vape prep writing checks what what most activist people who wanted to help out would do is what I was doing. 2016 I wanted to be the VP for a very important reason I wanted to change how the party did business. And what I mean by that is how the president candidate ran the campaign, we would run the campaign and we every year for 50 state run around, try to get things done, and we'd get half a percent every single year. And then people go away and nothing would change. And I was done. Then it was the right answer. I thought we got to focus on a small area first, get popular from that area that makes news then make it a national make it a national campaign. Well, that didn't happen in 2016 2012 2016. I tried it myself in 2018. When I ran for governor in New York, and it did work, I went out smaller areas became a bit popular in certain areas that parts of districts in New York State upstate New York where I got 27% of the vote. I know it sounds crazy as libertarian, but it's true. And I did that because I was the only guy who would show up. I was the guy who would sit there and you know, the choice was does the press cover the cow escaping or as the press cover letters show up showing up while the cow escapes every week? So let's let's cover letter sharp.

Brian Nichols  4:00  
And by the way, at someone from upstate New York, I can testify that cow escaping every week that is pretty much the new story. So

Larry Sharpe  4:07  
that's correct, yes. So they would actually decide, hey, let's cover letters sharp. And from that I got popular locally, that went to a larger city. And before you know, it was it was a statewide campaign. And when that actually happened, I was able to multiply the last guy who read his book total by six. That's an amazing accomplishment. I got ballot actually, for the first time ever in New York state, meaning I became a major party in New York State for the first time ever. And the year after I crossed the state again, trying to get local people to win. And we had 107 Local victories. We went from zero libertarians in New York State to 107 in New York State in one year. And that was because of that strategy and me doing this. I knew it would work. So 2020 I ran for VP again hoping that I can get that to happen because the only candidate who wanted that was Judge Jim Gray. Sadly, the the delegates did not pick the judge. So I dropped out and people were shocked like wow, Why'd you drop out? Why did you become the BP I don't run just to run like I could run for something every year for wanting to I run so that I can make impact. I take people's time, money and energy and mine also right my time and energy so that I can make impact 2018 I made impact that was the entire goal. 2020 I wanted to just didn't want to, I mean, just wanted to the people didn't pick him. I then went to run again in 2022 in New York State and had to fight because they got rid of everything I did New York state New York state get rid of in 2020. This is too much. They use their laws change the laws removed everything. We lost party status, we lost everything the party was ever said. So I tried in 2020 to run again. And I did, I raised another half million dollars yet again, got on the ballot yet again. And the Republican Party sued me off the ballot. So I didn't even I didn't get to be on the ballot. That was a colossal failure for me. Personally, politically, in many ways, it was a horrible failure. And I didn't want to run again. I was like, I'm done. That was horrible. When I was done in 2018, I was I was over $100,000 in debt after 2018. But it was worth it. Because again, 107 victories the next year. Party stands for the first time multiplied the vote total by six worth the pain 2022. I was over $40,000 in debt when it was over. And I got nothing. Literally nothing. The New York State party is still broken because of it. It was a terrible year, it devastated a 2020 deficit as with windows they did in 2020. His failure was even worse. And I was not gonna learn all this. He was like, I'm done. I gotta walk away. This is killing me in every way possible. I can't do this anymore. But then Lars mapset said, Laurie, I got you. Like, I will do the thing. You said you're correct. He asked me to help out with policy. And I was like a policy guy. Oh, my God, not just yelling rhetoric. You know that we are all about yelling rhetoric, which I like rhetoric. I'm not against rhetoric. I love the red meat like all libertarians do, I really do. But the rest of the world doesn't only like our rhetoric, they also like policy. So he wanted me to help them build policies very happy. So I started building a policy for him. And he was very forward. He's like, look like we can do this. This is right way I agree with you. He wants wanting to work on Nebraska and Maine, working first on trying to get electoral votes in those two places. And then once that happens, the press grows and we keep going. And he's right. Already, it's happened. Already. The press has picked up Laura's maps dad's plan to try to get electoral votes. In Maine and Nebraska polls, you don't know. Those are two states. That's not winner take all. In other words, whoever wins New York, whoever wins Texas gets all of the electoral votes for the presidency. But in Maine and Nebraska, only those two states, it's broken up by area. So you could focus on an area and get one electoral vote out of Maine or one electoral vote out of Nebraska. That's the key Libertarian Party has never done that before. Focusing on that actually gives us a good goal to go after. And we go after that goal. We get an A map that sets up every local person for the next four years driving victories, like I did in New York State. Right, that victory sets people up. But more important than that even believe it or not, already, Michael Smerconish is CNN guy has already had Lars on his show talking about this exact issue. The press has already picked it up. Lawrence has already been in 15 polls, that's more polls than any Libertarian candidate ever, ever. I've been in a lot of polls. I haven't been as many as he has. And he hasn't got the nomination yet. This is already gonna become a national campaign already. And he hasn't got the nomination yet. Add on top of that. He's independently wealthy so he's able to help fund his own campaign. He's put a half million dollars in the campaign already. He's promised already put another million in plus he has some wealthy friends who like him, they don't like libertarians, they like him. So they're not going to give money unless it's him. So that's extra cash. And you might go Why Is money that important? Yes, for two reasons. Number one, it's always important number one, because it's politics. I know people hate it, but it is but number two RFK Jr. Drank this year. The last time we had someone like him running the Libertarian Party got half a percent. half a percent. If we get half a percent this year, and we will get that if we don't pick Lars as our nominee, we will get half a percent. That's how it's gonna work doesn't matter. Oh, my guy speaks good. No one's going to hear him. Nobody cares. I'm just being very forward. We're going to half a percent. When we get half a percent, we're going to lose ballot access in 20 to 30 states. Libertarian party's not coming in fifth. It's going to be Democrat Republican chairman come in the first RFK Jr. Jill Stein, who is now funded people don't realize that Jill Stein is funded now. She's funded because of Joe Biden's terrible foreign policy. And people who hate that foreign policy are now behind Jill Stein. She's now funded so she'll come in fourth will come in fifth. The party's devastated not just that because of that. We're going to spend the next four years. You think fighting that was bad. Watch how bad the next four years is, is we blame that person, whoever it is, for the next four years fight over the crumbs that are left over our broken party that will have people leave and no ballot access and a Green Party stronger than us. It is the end of the world. That is why I'm stepping in. That is why I'm only running with Lars. Because if Lars actually gets this thing, he will raise it to three, four or $5 million we need. And he'll focus first in a small areas to get us depress. He'll get us into the polls. He's already polling at 2% already. Think I'm making this up, go look, it's public. He's already polling in real polls, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, Zogby, already 2%. Now if he can just get to just 3%, just 3%, he saves ballot access for us in 20 to 30 states, just like that, just like that and be seals done. Just like that. That's all it takes. How do I know this is true? Because the last time we've run these these before, we were in the same type of situation, but we're not going to have the money. So if you run the Jo Jorgensen style, the the Gary Johnson style, Gary Johnson had raised $13 million 13 million Jojoba is about three, whoever wants now is gonna raise maybe half a million. A lot of the people who I raise have been in New York state. That's not enough for an actual national campaign. I raised that just in New York State twice, there's no way you can run a campaign on that you'll get into no polls, you get no ads, you will literally walk around a bunch of states meeting people who are libertarians, who will Oregon to vote for you, and nothing's gonna grow. This is the end of the world. It's why I'm running otherwise, I would not do this policy,

Brian Nichols  11:48  
plan and cash. So in your campaign kickoff, the dressing up in Maine, I could be wrong. You articulated that right. And one of the things so I had Lars in the show back a month and a half ago or so somewhere in there. And Lars, he walks through the 269 to 269 plan. So there's the plan. Lars has sorry, 270. Sorry, my apologies. Yeah, you got the policy in place. From a pragmatic standpoint, I'll use that word very loosely to know that word has a lot of negative connotations and libertarian circles. So

Larry Sharpe  12:21  
I'm proudly pragmatic product wise.

Brian Nichols  12:23  
magmatic. Likewise, we you gotta be, you know, your ideas have to work in the real world, right? So you have to be pragmatic in that regard, at the very least. Now, the cash part. And this is, I think, your point, one of the most important issues that gets forgotten, but for some reason, Larry, this seems to be one of the sticking points for a lot of libertarians and I see this on social media, people freaking out saying this guy is coming into our party. He's done nothing and not you, Lars coming into our party. He's never been a party member. He's never tried to help build up the party itself. And now he's just throwing 500k or 500k at the party trying to help build his name recognition. What are we doing here? Why do we let this guy by the party? That's the argument I hear Larry. Now, I have said many times and actually, I think I said this on when Lars is on the show. Lars is running what I would think is the probably the best campaign out of all the LP candidates. I've had Lars on the show. I've had Mike termite on the show, chase all over on the show, Josh Smith. I think Mike, Michael record was the only candidate I haven't had in the show. And of all that,

Larry Sharpe  13:27  
I love Josh.

Brian Nichols  13:29  
Oh, me too.

Larry Sharpe  13:31  
I love Chase. I love my I love those guys. They're

Brian Nichols  13:34  
great people. And I think you know, at the end of the day, our goal is to find who is the best person to not just be a good person for the party is a principled libertarian, but to take those ideas and bring them to and you highlighted this right? Not the folks who are already going to vote for you. But the folks who are they're open to a different way of doing things. They look at how bad that existing solution has gotten us, and they want something different. So that is the person who need to reach out to you. So I put all that as the context for my question, Larry, the cash part. What are we going to do from an overcoming objection standpoint? Because we are a sales oriented podcast here. So let's overcome that objection. Lars is coming in and buying the party. Larry, he's coming in. They're buying the party. What are we doing here? That's the argument. I think it's a little silly. But what say you Larry,

Larry Sharpe  14:23  
know a couple of things. One, you gotta realize when I when you run as much as I have or been in the mainstream as much as I have. He's realized something. Once you become a threat, that's when people just blatantly study to making things up or lying or trying to find ways to attack what you didn't hear them as talk about how their guy is just so much better than Lars, that you're not hearing. What you're hearing is who's this last guy? How dare him is what you're hearing. Here's the problem. Lars has been doing the things. If you remember I told you that I came in in 2012. I didn't start running till 2016. What was I doing from the 40s before I was supporting candidates with cash, that's what I was doing. I was I was a result I still am making money. As I said I was multiple 1000s of dollars in debt, I have to make that money up. So I was giving candidates money and support. That's what I was doing. People in 2016 said lottery shark killer nowhere. I wasn't nobody when I was writing checks to the party, that that I was that I wasn't knowing what I was raising money for party affiliates, which is what I was doing. Larson and same thing. Lars has been supporting candidates and causes already he is has been running for office. So there are people who already have been getting money from him, as has been supporting people, which we also need. We need activists, they're critical. We need candidates critical when he volunteers are critical. And we need donors, critical. All of these parts of the party are critical and important. And just because you aren't an activist or aren't a donor doesn't make you more important or less important. We're all important. Lars was being more of a donor. To be clear. For those who say He's done nothing. Literally, Maine would not have ballot access without him. And you can ask to be with Maine, they will tell you that even those who don't support him, literally, he went there physically, to help get signatures, and then wrote a check for $25,000 to get in the ballot, whether he's the nominee or not. That's someone who's done nothing for the party. Well, money doesn't matter. Money doesn't matter. Are you crazy? Have you run a campaign? Do you understand how that works? Everything is paid to play. The reason why Lars is number one in in polls, the reason why a lot of dementia are calling him and it's true that calling him the assumed candidate there already that's that you can Google that. That's the norm in mainstream. They're calling him that. Why? Because they don't know any better. They don't know how we work. Some of them think he's already the candidate. They don't know how we work. So why would they say that? Because they see he's the only guy who is doing advertisements he's already been buying. He's already buying ads. On Twitter, on Facebook, he already has physical ads in Nebraska already. And he's raised the most money. So what is mainstream thing? Oh, you raised the most money, you're buying ads, you're the candidate. So money matters a lot. It is critical. We have to make sure this works. It's how it works. So that's that's the first piece miners matter. Second piece, he has been spending money, I would ask you, as has anybody else put as much money into ballot access as him. Nobody ran for office has nobody not even close. And

Brian Nichols  17:27  
I gotta say, Larry, this, I think paints the picture very clearly. And something I've been trying to really promote here in the show for a number of years is that there is a difference between playing, playing politics and actually like, like playing the game of public tests. And I unfortunately, see a lot of our friends in the libertarian movement. They like the social club aspect. They like the book club aspect, right? And they get too stuck in the ISM of libertarian ism, versus what are we trying to do here? What's the goal, it's like, so just to use a business example for the folks in the audience, right? If you have a great product, and you're like, This is the best product ever, it's gonna solve everyone's problems, it's going to make the world a better place. And you just get everybody into your company. And you guys are talking about how great the product is. And you're just you're focusing on making it better and refining how it's going to work. And then in terms of actually bringing it to a marketplace to sell, you just you completely ignore the marketing budget, you completely ignore the sales budget. And it's like, well, of course, you're not going to have any success in generating new revenue, because you're not selling, you're just doing the r&d, right, you're making the product in your own little confines of your four walls, the best version, it could be. And more often than not, this is just us talking out loud about our ideas, versus actually doing something with this. So I think that is an important part to to highlight first, but also, Larry, I just want to highlight this as well. We talk about like people taking us seriously as a party. Yes. In the fact that Lars is the presumed nominee simply by the fact that he has spent money he is making appearances. And he is buying ads speaks to how just pardon the expression how absolutely fuck our nomination process is at the Libertarian Party, the fact that we are waiting this long in the process to bring a candidate as our standard bearer when we know that we're going to be facing Republican and Democratic candidates who are going to have months of free publicity during their primaries and from the corporate media just raising them up every single time they can because they know what's going to lead to more eyeballs. We I think we have to do a better job at trying to get our candidates selected earlier, and give them an opportunity to build up name recognition, much like what Lars is basically doing on his own, but do so as the actual candidate going into the election. None of this nonsense of guessing who's going to be our candidate? Will they be a decent candidate? Oh my goodness. Now we're, you know, a couple months from the election, and we still haven't gotten our standard bearer. That's my personal I guess beef with that whole process. Let's say you am I on the right path.

Larry Sharpe  20:01  
One, you are 100%. Right. And the other problem is we've now trained our candidates to not care about that. That's the worst part. When I ran in 2018, I made sure that when I got to my, when I got to my nominating convention, even though I thought I was really the only real player at that point in 2018, in New York State, I went there, I'd already raised six figures. And I had a press reel that I could show at the convention. I was starting my campaign way before the convention I was already running already been on TV and done all the things before I was acting as if I was the assumed candidate already. Why would I do that? Because in New York state, as some people know, New York, California, particularly, we have a worry with the with Libertarian Party is all of a sudden some celebrity walks in and says, I'm your savior, and people go, ooh, and he all of a sudden becomes our Savior. So I was worried about that. We don't do that at the national and we act like it doesn't matter. That's how we get bills. Right. That's how we get by bar. That's how we get those people because we aren't doing what you're talking about. You are completely correct. We should be we should have some type of system better than this. I know it isn't great, but it's what we have. Now. Let's try to fix the problem is one of the great reasons why I want someone like Alaris to win. Why want Lara's in this case to win specifically, is because if he wins this thing, we will have a purpose. It won't be my side one take that. That's and that's what I worry, right when we if my side, one take that wins this thing. The other people leave and attack us. And worse, go to RFK Jr. Go to Jill Stein, or go republicans, democrats and never come back. Right. That's my biggest worry. If Lars wins, two things will happen. Somebody will go well, my guy didn't win. Who cares? But when they see success, they'll come back because people always find success. Or people go oh, great. Now it's, it's not the other guy that I hate. I'll take it. Okay, I'll jump on board. We'll do this. And we saw that with Gary Johnson. Gary Johnson added a party in 2016 as well, okay, he's not the other guys. Fine. We'll deal with it. So I think we can do it again this time, but keep it right. That's the key. Once Lars is done, he's already said it. Lars already said that, once he's done this campaign, he's now going to, he's not going to try to help the party out in many ways. One, you know, we already have the Republicans Democrats have the win, read and act blue. These are basically databases that people use to raise money, he's going to help start go gold. It's now independent candidates to include the materials to be able to now have a database to raise money wherever they are the same way Democrats Republicans do it, number one, number two, he's going to buy a polling company, or make one so that now we will be impulse, whenever involves now we're going to be impulse that's laws maps, that the guy who does nothing for the party, that guy he's gonna He's gonna be buying pulled up a bowling alley, or starting one either moment, it makes the most sense. Again, he's a business guy. Look, the guy ran a business. He's running multiple businesses, but his largest one had 600 employees. Nobody running has had that kind of experience ever. Not even close, not even close. The amount of people he's worked with the amount of attacks, he's gone through, fighting through the government, bureaucracy, multimillion, multi 100 million dollar companies, none of them have even come close to that. He can do that. So polling company, that's great. And lastly, he wants to put together a PAC that will sue states to have easier ballot access. He saw it here. And you see, even with RFK, Jr, and everybody else, how hard it is to get ballot access. He's like, why do we keep paying for ballot access when he gets to the states and make better battle access? And I'm like, that makes sense. So now we're gonna get three things after this. After he's done. There will be a legacy with Lars. Without Laura's it will be like we always do one and done. One guy or gal runs for president. Nice thing. Thanks for the publicity guys and the money, and then they leave and you never see him again. Think about this from tour if you've been around for a while from 2016 Of all the people ran for VP and president who's still active, like, No 2016

Brian Nichols  24:01  
Oh, sorry. There's things from 2016 to today. He's literally the only person I can think of and then you obviously, but that's

Larry Sharpe  24:08  
me. Well, 2016. Right. And then 2020 While spike is active. He's active in the movement, not the birdie. Yep. Right. Domina I love spike doing great stuff. Don't stop spike, please keep being great. All I'm saying is he's not in the party. He's in the movement, who was active in the party? August 26 2016, and 2020, who's active in the party and those two, and if you add VP and present candidates, that's almost 20 people. I'm the only one. Nobody else is active in the party. Now Hornberger is running again. But Hornberger is every four years I show up. He's an active in the party. RP

Brian Nichols  24:46  
Jill Stein. Grass. Yes. But

Larry Sharpe  24:49  
then these people aren't showing up raising money for individual candidates. They aren't showing up raising money for the party. They aren't showing up at the state conventions like I am. I'm here all the time. I'm the only one If we don't do this again, we're gonna have another one and done. They all show up. They're all awkward guy care. They're all take the whatever fame they can get from it, and we won't see them again. For four more years, maybe the guy who's here is me. That's the guy who's here every year. That's the guy who eats the same dirt yo eat. I'm the guy who sits in the trenches with you. I'm the guy who dies in the same hills that you die on. That's me. And I'm here again. And now I'm telling you, Lars will leave a legacy. The rest of won't. That's why I'm running and people ask Larry, if he doesn't when we drop out? Yes. I'm not here to just run. So I have a show with my name on it. I don't require any more vanity stuff, right? I've already been on Joe Rogan. I don't require any more vanity stuff. I'm good, right? I'm good. I'm not here for vanity run. Sadly, most people in our party run for vanity. That's just truth. Most runs vanity, and they take it they get bigger podcasts or whatever they're gonna get. And then they leave. And they say I was the thing and they're proud and then walk away. And we're stuck, you know, fighting in the streets while they go off. And we've seen them every four years. And then that's it. That's not what I'm worried about. I don't need that. That's not why that's why yes, if Laurie, if the if the people don't pick Lars, I get it. You don't pick them. happened to me last time. And people were shocked. Why did you drop out after judgment, your loss because I told you I would. I don't, I don't need to be part of a half a percent. When the part is going to be wrecked. I'm going to be here trying to pick up the pieces after the disaster that this year will be because whoever is the nominee if it's not Lars, it will be a disaster, of course. And when that's done, most people will get mad and leave and blame people and go online and start attacking each other as you're attacking me. Now if you're watching online, they're all hammering me all day online, as they always do. Thinking we'll get Larry sharp because I do I've been there for eight years. Anyone who's attacking me now? Stop you wasting. I mean, it makes you feel good. You in a cloud Chase. Go ahead. I don't mind but it's gonna get nowhere.

Brian Nichols  27:03  
I did see a really funny meme. And it was Lars, and you as Ben and Taylor. I'm sorry. I laughed. I had a good chuckle about that. That was good. It was a good one. Enjoy.

Larry Sharpe  27:13  
But it doesn't it doesn't change anything. But enjoy. If you don't see me engage, whatever. Enjoy. Do you think here's the reality, a year from now? Not even a year from now? Two weeks from now? Nobody will care.

Brian Nichols  27:24  
Oh, 100% 100%. Well, and by the way, that speaks to what's happening this weekend. Right? It is this weekend, right? Holy cow. Yeah, the LP national convention. So we're having this episode, Aaron Friday. Larry, lots is gonna be going out of this weekend. You got Trump coming to the to the LNC. You got Vivek Ramaswamy, you got Thomas Massie and then just announced Ron Paul, he's the guest, keynote speaker to wrap things up on top of on some nominating LP presidential and VP nominees. So talk to us, Larry, you know, what should we be looking for here for the convention and any words of wisdom to folks who are attending the convention with all the hubbub of going around with a you know, Trump and the gang showing up? I'm

Larry Sharpe  28:05  
going to ask, you're asking my opinion, I'll give you my opinion. For those who are going to be showing up, and for those who are supporting candidates, here's my request. If you're supporting a candidate, go out of your way to get your candidate in front of the press. That's what I would ask. Now by being aggressive by trying to let your candidate know if any Kennedy's what I hope you support Lars mapset, obviously, that's what I want. But any one of our candidates if you support one of them, and there's press there, try your best either have a conversation about your candidate, not about you. That is my request. Right, not about you about the candidate that you're supporting. Even if it's not large, I hope as long as it doesn't, doesn't matter, try to get your candidate in front of press. That's what matters. I know some of us want to Oh, here's my chance to talk about how cool Am I get it? That's nice. And if you get that secondarily, please, but please focus on any candidate you support, getting them in from the press, that is going to be our best chance of getting some people to get some quotes to hear our name to support your candidate to support us in general, they are going to try because the press always does to make us look as silly as possible. I get it. That's what they do. The press is not our friend in that regard. But if we can get our candidates in front of them, it may be worth it. I hope it will be worth it. I want it to be worth it. So my advice for anyone there, please do that. Second, when you're being shown, be as savvy as you can possibly be when people are showing you That's it. Note that they're going to spin this to the worst they possibly can. But if you give them interesting stuff, they may show it. This is our opportunity if we can get it since this was gonna happen. You're right. Everybody's showing up at our convention. All right, so some people are mad about it. I'm not exactly happy about all the people who are coming. I mean, Ron Paul's fine, we're happy. No worse. But there are certain people who I'm not exactly happier here. However, they're here so let's be smart. Take advantage of If that is my whole point, and I think all of us should be thinking, how do we get our candidates in front of as many cameras and microphones as possible, to show that we are running more than just one person that we don't just win the presidency that we have. And I mean, to be clear, there will be local candidates to is what my point is even clearer. Not just president, you've got a guy who's running for Senate, a guy who's running for Congress, someone for city council, and they happen to be there, get them in front of a camera or microphone. Talk about their local race in whatever Kentucky Ohio, I don't care where do that, that will help us tremendously.

Brian Nichols  30:32  
And please don't strip on stage just Yes. that do that. Believe it or not, that doesn't sell. I know shocking. Who Who could have guessed Larry sharp, it's always a pleasure to have you on my friend and to folks who are interested in supporting the campaign or had just trying to learn some more, we got maps dead sharp, Larry, where can folks go ahead and support you learn more about you and Mars map said, Hey, go ahead. If they want support the campaign financially, we're gonna do that as well.

Larry Sharpe  30:59  
Lars, 20 four.com l a r s two four.com. That is where you want to go to figure out what's going on for the check me out just Google Shopping everywhere.

Brian Nichols  31:10  
And he is everywhere. You can look at this sharp way what you can see there in the background Larry's awesome show. I'll make sure we include all those links in the show notes. Larry, it's always a pleasure having you on my friend. Folks, please go ahead, share today's episode. If you are attending the LNC this weekend, please go ahead and reach out to as many folks as you can who are interested in the LP candidates. And if they're toying with the idea of tossing their vote behind Lars or Larry, but they're on the fence send them this video. I think Larry does a really good job of articulating why having a policy a plan and yes, having some cash is important. With that being said find us on your favorite podcast or video app, Apple podcasts, Spotify, YouTube music or YouTube rumbled Twitter, Facebook, wherever it is you consume your content, just do a favor hit that subscribe button hit that little notification bell and of course, please head down below into the comments. Let us know your thoughts. Are you on the large sharp train? Or are you possibly considering somebody else? We want to hear what your thoughts are please continue the conversation. Respectfully Larry shaking his head no, because obviously Larry is bias. I can't blame them. Otherwise, um, please, one last thing support the folks who support us our amazing sponsors cardio miracle we have our good friends, the wellness company, Michael Scott 2024 40 day plan shirt and more. Head over to all those sponsors at Brian Nichols. show.com forward slash sponsors. That's all we have for you. With that being said, have a safe and fun LNC this weekend. Otherwise, Brian Nichols signing off here in The Brian Nichols Show for the one and only Larry sharp. We'll see you next time.

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