849: Debunking the Myths About Homeschooling

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Do your kids need school? Yeah. Let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, hey there, folks, Brian Nichols, here on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us on of course, another fun filled episode. I am as always your humble host. Joining us from our lovely cardio miracle Studios here in eastern Indiana. The Brian Nichols Show is powered by our amazing friends over at amp America, folks, you would go on to the news channels, you go on to the name the articles you read, if it's from corporate media entities, you know, you're getting the corporate media bias and fluff and frankly, you don't need that it's just garbage in the brain. So what you need is an America for the news, the opinion pieces that are really without the fluff or that bias head over to amp america.com I will personally thank you as well, because, yeah, I mean, I have a few opinion pieces over there. And more go ahead check them out over amp america.com. Also, The Brian Nichols Show is brought to you by our phenomenal studio sponsor cardio miracle Now, folks, I've been using cardio miracle for about a year and just I'm blown away at the impact that cardio miracle has had on my life. And now I was skeptical. back a year ago, I heard cardio miracle we had John Hewitt, the CEO here and the show is talking about nitric oxide, it's helping people have better blood pressure, lower heart rates, all that fun stuff. And I'm like, that sounds great. But I don't know, it just sounds like it's too good to be true. That was frankly, the mentality I had. But I said, heck, there's 100% money back guarantee, we'll give this thing a shot. Two months, that's all it took two months, my blood pressure went from being 140 over 90 consistently down to like 120 over 80, my resting heart rate dropped from like the low 70s down to the high 50s. I was floored, like better sleep better pump at the gym, my heart feeling the best it's felt in literally years. So I said, okay, they're a studio sponsor. And I need to tell my audience, and I've told you guys now for the past year, and you guys have reached out and you've told me what you've heard, and I'm just blown away, literally hundreds of you guys in the audience are using cardio miracle, you're seeing the benefits for yourselves. And you're joining the 10s of 1000s of folks out there who are across the country, across the world experiencing the cardio miracle benefits. So if you want to go ahead and jump on the cardio miracle train, all you got to do is head down below into the show notes or video description. Click that link, it's going to bring you right over to cardio miracle.com. And you should have a 15% discount applied to your order. But if it for whatever reason didn't just make sure you use code TBNS at checkout, and you'll have that discount applied. And like I said earlier, 100% money back guarantee. So you literally have nothing to lose one more time cardio miracle.com, the best heart health supplement in the world. Alright, let's talk about this question. I teased at the intro. Do your kids actually need schooling? That's a great question. Now if you are like 99% of Americans out there, you just have this knee jerk reaction. Well, of course our kids need to go to school. But is it actually school that's supposed to teach them or school schooling them? Are there your kids being educated? Or they're just being force fed information and ways of doing things that? Frankly, they don't really need to learn anymore? Because it's from like, 100 plus years ago? Great question. Right. Let's discuss all that. And more. Joining me here on The Brian Nichols Show authors of the brand new book. Kids don't need school, Jonathan and Adrian and Prescott, welcome here, The Brian Nichols Show how you guys doing? Good. Thank you for having us. Yes. Great to have you on. Yes. Thank you for joining us. And by the way, sneak behind the curtain. You guys are joining us bright and early. It's 8:30am over in the great state of Washington, as we're recording here today. So thanks for waking up bright and early to join the show. But obviously we're talking about a very important topic, a very passionate project for you guys. So jump ball who wants to kick things off? Talk to us about homeschooling? Do your kids need school this entire topic of kids education? It's really rose up over the past four years, especially during COVID now more parents are having this conversation so jump ball who wants to I guess dig into this why is this a topic you guys have really embraced answered writing books about and building some solutions for Well,

Jonathan Prescott  5:00  
we're long, longtime homeschoolers, and our daughter now is 14 and in college.

Adriana Prescott  5:06  
Yeah, she's homeschooled.

Brian Nichols  5:09  
And in college, yes. Okay, now we got to hear more about that.

Adriana Prescott  5:14  
Some of them may think things she's done as she did Middle School, which is about competitive three years worth of information and whatnot. We did an inset. Well, she did it actually in seventh and eighth month, the whole Middle School, wow, knowledge and skill sets and everything. And basically, at 14, she didn't, you know, it was she was ready for college. So she basically skipped High School, and went straight to college. And in four years, she'll get a bachelor, bachelor's degree in, in business. And by the time she graduates, she will have not only her bachelor's, but would have met all her high school requirements. So it's basically about learning and every kid learns differently, and some kids can go past there very quickly. So this idea that school or learning is how we learned in public school is

Jonathan Prescott  6:04  
what we found. Since we're both engineers got 30 years, she's got 20 years, what we've learned is how to break down systems and and, and understand them and explain them in a simple terms. And that's what we that's what we did. And in our book, kids don't need school. Okay, and available on Amazon.

Adriana Prescott  6:23  
Yep. And we prepare, we present a radical new homeschool plan that basically teach allows you to teach anything, promote independent learning, and prepare children for an uncertain future, because we don't know what that future will be. It's always changing. And so with the school system, they're not preparing children for a changing future. Logistically,

Jonathan Prescott  6:43  
the public school system and even private school wastes a lot of time in the gym, Jana, managing people. Yeah. So homeschooling is very unique. Because you focus one on one with with the child, and learning happens immediately. And so and then, of course, there's an aspect that we go into the book about agency, and about motivation, and, and an independent learning, independent learning. And so by the time they're, by the time the kids are, you know, 1314, they should be self learning. You don't have to sit there and teach them, you know, these things, you you you become a guide, a mentor, pretty

Adriana Prescott  7:30  
much you have to. Okay, so, as homeschooling, you know, education is not a separate thing. You know, as we're raising children, we're teaching them life skills, and some of those life skills touch on some academics, but not in the same way that the school system does them. Right.

Jonathan Prescott  7:47  
So our basic basic philosophy is we, this plan is for the parent, improving the parent child relationship, so that we,

Adriana Prescott  7:59  
yeah, because without that parent and child relationship being good, the kids are not going to want to learn from the parents. And that's some of the conflicts that we see in the homeschooling committees is parents say, Well, I can't get my kid to learn this or to or, or to be able to do this curriculum. Because what's happening, some of the homeschool laws have reached very restrictive requirements where they have to tell parents, you have to cover the subjects and some some states even go further and how to cover those subjects. But the pressure is there. And parents don't realize that you have to think about learning entirely different, you can still cover these things in a more natural way that is applicable to life. Not just me. Let

Brian Nichols  8:44  
me jump in here first, because this is like this all sounds great, right? And I'm on board. But then I hear the objections. I'm a sales guy and I hear the objections ringing in the audience in the background, and they're saying, Brian, and then name the objection. So let's cover some of these objections. Because this show we're not just talking about the solutions, but how do we effectively sell these solutions to people right, so one of the main objections I'm sure you guys hear day in, day out? Well, first of all, Jonathan and Adriana, I'm not a teacher, number one and number two, I don't know if you know this or not, I got a job. I'm busy. I don't have time to teach my kids on top of trying to be a full time employee or trying to be a full time head of household are trying to do my side hustle or trying to go to the gym and maintain my personal health on top. I'm trying to teach my kid to. Isn't that why I pay property taxes. Prescott's? Tell me more.

Jonathan Prescott  9:43  
Well, let me think about it. Well, we will pay the property taxes. What product are we getting? I mean, we have we have kids all over the country who are not proficient and they graduate, not even proficient in reading or math or anything else like Good. So what what are you paying for? That's the That's a big question.

Adriana Prescott  10:04  
What is the success rate for these kids? You know, what kind of what kind of life? Are they getting as adults? Or

Jonathan Prescott  10:11  
are they? Are they teaching them how to be entrepreneurs or employees?

Adriana Prescott  10:15  
But let's let's answer the first question on qualifications, right? Because that's the number one thing that Oh, apparently, I'm not qualified to teach, because apparently, they think that you need a teacher certification to teach. Well, you don't The thing is, we've been teachers, ever since our children were born came to this world. And the thing is, we've taught them many things. We've taught them how to, you know, eat solids, pal, how to go to the bathroom, how to dress themselves, and all these things. So we've already been teaching them all these things, and all of a sudden, we are passing this rest of the responsibilities over to institutions, baby sitters, basically, and think that we can't continue. And the matter of fact is, we know what knowledge needs to be learned. We know what serves us well in life. And so those are the things we have to teach, continue to teach our children and continue being their teachers, but better than that they need near their mentorship and guidance. Because you don't want that just teaching relationship. Like, we're just transferring this information. So you can, you know, keep it. But no, it's not that it's we're guiding them through life, because learning is part of life, if that's something you just acquired in the set of, you know, time boundaries. And that's the thing about time. You don't need eight hours. Yes.

Jonathan Prescott  11:36  
I was just about to say that, you know, you don't need eight hours to teach your kids.

Brian Nichols  11:42  
I just want to say that has been consistently one of the biggest objections I get is like, Well, what else? Am I supposed to add this to my day? I already have, like, 12 hours that seems booked out? When can I add another eight hours to teach a kid? It's not eight hours? Tell us more about that? Yeah. Okay. So

Adriana Prescott  11:59  
the MISC is it miss? Miss conception, this perception of homeschooling, they think that they think that they have to do public school at home. And that's the biggest mistake. So a lot of the stuff in their book tells you not to do that instead do these other things. Because that actually is what homeschooling is about. And so they think that they have to cover the the restrictions, and the eight hours and the boring lessons. And in the reality is, if you go back and look at the public school system, they have to spend eight hours because a lot of that time is spent managing 30 kids in the classroom. But basically, it's management of a whole school of students and the logistics that gets right. So the learning really happens, it's very small amount of time that learning is really happening in the schools. So now that you have them in the homeschool environment is it's almost like having a private tutor. But even better than that is one on one instruction was obviously more efficient. And that's why you don't need that eight hours. But not only that, but whatever information that supposedly gets covered in a year gets covered in a much shorter period of time. And that depends on the child, obviously, because they have different learning abilities. And so you're teaching them that for in a way that better serves that child, whatever that pace is. But

Brian Nichols  13:20  
But don't they still have to take the state tests? I mean, if I had trouble right here, we'll make it real. If I had trouble taking the state test, and I was going to school for eight hours a day, how can my kid take the state tests? If they're only going for an hour or two or three a day and putting in the same effort? Or are they because

Jonathan Prescott  13:39  
because we don't teach to a grade we teach to mastery. Okay, when your children master something, you don't have to do 16 More work work pages or worksheets,

Adriana Prescott  13:51  
because they mastered it quickly.

Jonathan Prescott  13:53  
They already know it. So if you continue giving out these worksheets, after worksheets, you're going to kill the motivation.

Adriana Prescott  14:00  
And you're going to discourage them from learning because what you're teaching them are conditioning them is to think that learning is boring, and not fun. And I don't want to do it.

Brian Nichols  14:08  
And by the way, how much of that that model of we give the kid a you know, a topic that we're going to we're going to focus on right, let's just say addition, right? basic addition, and they the kid gets it but then they have to drill this into their head for a week, two weeks a month. Is that because that is the way that the bureaucracies all the experts have said it has to be taught or is it literally as basic as hey, you have 20 3050 kids in the classroom. Billy might learn it day one, but Susie over there, she might need more time. So we have to take all these kids into consideration and understand that they'll have different levels of how fast they learn. So we're just going to set an arbitrary timeframe that hopefully Billy and Susie and Johnny and Timmy they all can start to pick up on this stuff. So by the time of that, you know, end of the month, we can move forward to the next topic and everybody should be on board is one of the numbers, nothing else

Jonathan Prescott  15:08  
that that tracks, okay? The thing is, is if you want to teach like simple math, right? And you don't want it to be boring, have a family game night, not related to your homeschool, right? And play Yahtzee. And so that itself, you're going to go through addition and counting and everything else like this and pattern recognition. That is a fantastic element to teaching a skill, because let's not let's not call them subjects, let's call them skills. And if you if you take terminology from the gaming community, you you talk about leveling up, like so we we level up our skills. And in fact, we even replaced the word chores with skills. And we talked about leveling up our skills.

Adriana Prescott  16:04  
Yes, that the other thing I want to talk about about mathematics is they they present it to abstractly to young children. And so when you when you present apps, an abstract of math, in other words, a textbook and you have numbers written, it's not, it's not meaningful. And that's why kids don't don't understand it. So the best way to teach math is concretely with hands on materials, because math needs to be touched, they need to understand the concept because guess what, we use math for different things for engineering for we're working with woodworking and stuff like this. So you have to really show them that math is, is a tool. This is how we use math. And then advanced math is for those particular students that are interested in learning math for more for different application for predicting the future, or algorithms and things like that. So but the aspect is you have to let children manipulate things. So they they understand math, because one of the ways that our daughter learn fractions really well is through baking, because baking has measurements, a cup, a quarter cup, but she took it several levels because she had half a recipe, or maybe a third of the recipe. And so that's how we're those hands on experiences, they start to understand and make sense of what these computations are. And then when they're ready for the transition from concrete to abstract, the numbers reading on the paper, now they know where that's coming from. So

Brian Nichols  17:33  
the being applicable, right? real life situations. And by the way, like I'm just hearing my own math story, because I hated math. I freaking hated it. I grew up in high school. And I just like I was like, why am I taking trig? I like politics, like, why am I doing this. And then when I was in college, I took a statistics class. And I was in love. I thought it was the coolest thing like little p hat. I was like, this is the coolest thing. I can use this to actually apply to real life. And I saw it versus now. Like, behind the curtain. I had a buddy of mine who he like super nerd, right? Like he actually has multiple degrees in math, love the trig love calculus. And we went into statistics. He was good at it. But he hated it. He's like, this is boring. I don't want to do this. And it was just really interesting to see how math nerd loved the hard complex stuff, but didn't like statistics, because it just it bored him whereas me I didn't like the super nerdy trig and calculus stuff. But I love the statistics, because for me, it was tangible. It was real life. It made sense. I love reading polls. I love looking at, you know, sample sizes. I love trying to understand, is this a good poll? Or is not a good poll? How do they pull this like all these little things for me that was like this is applicable and it's relevant. It matters. And how much of that like, when you look at the gamification, right gamification, it it reaffirms the mattering because it's no longer the abstract as you said, Adriana. It's no longer numbers representing something now it's the the numbers mean something, but also you see, when they come together, that it yields something else, right, it might build something new, it might lead you to the next step of the puzzle or the challenge, but you see that it's getting you somewhere and that there is a reason behind it versus just here's this book, read this book now and then tell me everything you learn in this book. You're like, why I don't care about this book. I don't care about you know, Romeo and Juliet, there has to be the why behind it. And if that's missing, I'm gonna be like, I don't care. In

Jonathan Prescott  19:44  
your you're skirting around. Exactly. One of the key features in our book talking about motivation is answering the question for the child. What's in it for me? If you can answer the what's in it for me question you under you understand the motivation And

Brian Nichols  20:00  
I don't have the book here. By the way, I'm just going to say I don't have the book here. That is one of the basic sales books I make all my sales teams learn is a book called What's in it for me. So the idea the idea of teaching sales, and we're the kids right here, like, oh my god, this is literally the exact same thing. So I just want to make sure people see this right. What we're talking about in selling ideas, in terms of selling this to a kid, exact same pain points, keep going. I didn't mean to interrupt you there.

Adriana Prescott  20:27  
It's fun that we are like minded because we these are good ideas that we we didn't know about it that we were talking you didn't know about about it in our book, we didn't know about it with you and your book. But we we realized that they're really good ideas, because we've analyzed it enough. And we and it's fantastic.

Jonathan Prescott  20:45  
And so here's here's, here's where the rubber meets the road. Yeah, if the child says, Why do we need to learn all this stuff? And if you don't have the what's in it for me answer where it explains it to the point where they they are satisfied with the answer, then you're not ready to teach it. And so what one of the examples is my our daughter said, you know, why do we need to learn this math, and it was graphing, and I'm going, so you can predict the future. And she goes, what I gave her something that said, here's here's a teaser, and then I explained about algorithms, and about predictive models and stuff like this. So that little guy knew that she was really knowledgeable in, in, in mythology. So the idea of predicting the future, and you know, the Oracles and stuff that really, I was able to hone in on that interest. Yeah, so to answer the question, what's in it for me, and to explain to her the importance of this particular subject, and you can do with every single subject, you don't need to be an expert in a subject to teach it. Our daughter is learning Japanese, I don't speak Japanese. She doesn't speak Japanese. But our daughter is learning it. She's learning reading and writing and stuff. And that's actually one of our first classes in college was the Japanese class. So the thing is, children have their own brains and their eyes and their own motivation. And you don't have to be an expert in calculus to teach calculus, you just have to know certain particular things.

Adriana Prescott  22:32  
And on top, in addition, you don't have to be on top of them. Which means to micromanagers Oh, yes. So you don't want to micromanage your kids about gotta learn all these things. And I'm gonna be on top of you to make sure you cover all these things. And

Jonathan Prescott  22:47  
that's, that's one of the things that's a holdover from, from the Prussian model of public education is the fact that they are by the bill. Yeah, we are, we are going to do this here. We're going to do this here. And what happens is, is that it just kills motivation, as some and some kids, yeah, they may excel in that. But they, they're in the position of, oh, the rules are the rules. We just have to follow them. But it's not about creativity. It's about compliance. And that's what the whole school system in its base philosophy talks about its compliance. And a lot of times it's stress compliance.

Brian Nichols  23:28  
Yeah, I. So I'm hearing this. And it is just funny, right? Because I teach. So I teach sales, and I coached teams. And I have to help reframe the way that managers have consistently been teaching sales for 2030 years, right. And I think back to like, I had a great sales manager when I old companies, and he was very much have this old like 80s and 90s mentality of sales, where you pound the pavement, you knock on doors, you smile and dial, like, that's, that's great. But that's not how everybody works. And that's not how sales, frankly, is done nowadays, and being able to work with a manager like him, and more or less have to reprogram him to understand, not just like that some of those old ways of doing things don't really work today, but also the fact that if you're trying to teach your your sales guys how to do things in a different way you have to yourself be willing to do things in a different way. And I I say that because one of the biggest, I guess, challenges that we face, and maybe one of the biggest objections I hear is that it's not so much getting the kids on board with this. It's getting the parents on board with this right? Because the kids they seem like they would jump in I mean, kids are just inherently by their nature, little learning machines like that's All they're doing from the ages of like zero to 18. They're just like a sponge. But the parents have this preconceived notion of this is how kids learn, because this is how I was taught. And this is how it's supposed to be done. So how much of your your challenge is actually getting parents to reframe their approach versus actually just selling the value of this works homeschooling works, your kids will see the value, but it starts with you, the parent actually bringing this to the table. Right.

Adriana Prescott  25:32  
And that's why we wrote the book, because that's what it precisely does is not only that, it does not only tell you why homeschooling is such a great idea, it tells you how to do it properly. And

Jonathan Prescott  25:43  
not only that, we also go into what homeschooling will will give society Yes, and what type of future we can we can we can expect when we start doing mass homeschooling. I mean, think about it. If you start homeschooling from the beginning, that that gives you 16,000 more hours with your children. And what kind of parental bond Do you think that would would grow from that? And, and not only that, but you're you're talking about not just the 16,000 hours, but you're talking about? I'm sorry, I'm getting? What was the point I was going to make?

Adriana Prescott  26:27  
I don't know, let me jump in real quick. Because engineers, you have too many thoughts going on. And I always

Brian Nichols  26:34  
just thought that was me being me all the time. But yeah, sure. Engineers do it too. Yeah,

Adriana Prescott  26:39  
I guess maybe I should rephrase that intelligent people think about many things. But the thing about homeschooling is, what it represents is freedom. And the biggest complaint about the intellect is that the freedom of free thinkers, basically, you're not going to get that in any institution, even if they were to change their way, and create and create some kind of program where there's more creativity, it just doesn't work. Because to be a free thinker, you have to be free of everything, for your the infrastructure, you have to be allowed to contemplate and experiment and discover in your own terms. And in other ways. You're giving each child their own right to be a free thinker when you're homeschooling them. That's the best way to do that. You're not going to achieve that in another place.

Jonathan Prescott  27:29  
No, because you go through multiple choice questions, you know, in tests and public school. And it's like, wait a minute, there's another answer to this. And there's a different perspective you can think about, but no, no, you and especially if it's like online school, you're just gonna get the answer wrong. Yeah, you know, there's no like negotiation with multiple choice. You know, there's no creative thinking. There's not even critical thinking. In fact, public tool says, Oh, we teach critical thinking now you don't know it's compliance thinking, then

Adriana Prescott  28:02  
I'll touch base, not just about the freedom, but about building families. Because the problem with dropping off your kids and something else for learning whatever, it's time spent away from parents, because time spent away from bonding, and family, because what happens if you put them with other kids, they're going to be bonding, in other words, attaching themselves to other kids, and they're going to be influenced, but whatever they're there into that's, that's their structure. And so we don't want that structure to exist anymore. We want the parent bonding, the strengthening of that family bond. And that in turn, you know, turns into stronger, unified communities, and

Jonathan Prescott  28:43  
family legacies and passing on your values and things. Yeah. And just before we end, I, there's another common argument against homeschooling and socialization.

Brian Nichols  28:56  
I was just gonna bring that up. I'm so glad you did. Thank you. Yeah, go ahead.

Jonathan Prescott  28:59  
Okay.

Brian Nichols  29:00  
Good social communicators, they weren't friends.

Jonathan Prescott  29:04  
And in psychology, there's two types of socialization, there's primary socialization and secondary socialization. Primary socialization is about socializing to the families talking about virtues and morals and values and things like that, and about how to conduct ourselves, you know, as as a virtuous person. Secondary socialization is socialization to a system. Think about it, like your, your company, this is the way we do things this way. You go through company training. And so you take that model, and you and you imagine that as school, this is the way we do things at school, and that's the socialization that they talk about. Now. Most people confuse socialization with socializing. That's not the same thing. Socialization in public school is about conditioning you to a particular system, there's a training, you have to accept that system. And so that's secondary socialization has nothing to do with whether something is right or wrong. It's a right or wrong to their system. But it's not talking about morals and ethics and anything else like that. It's just to a system.

Adriana Prescott  30:23  
Now, if we talk about socializing, the homeschooling platform is a lot better at teaching kids how to socialize, because you're taking them with you everywhere you go, grocery store, bank, whatever. And they're they're hearing you socialize with others, you're the template basically, and you're the adult with experience in, in socializing. And so that's how they learn how to socialize with the best teachers and experiences. It's not something,

Jonathan Prescott  30:51  
you don't learn how to conduct yourselves in a social setting, with other people who don't know how to conduct themselves with a social setting, you know,

Adriana Prescott  31:01  
and they're not allowed to either it's no, because you have to, you have to sit down and be quiet and pay attention.

Jonathan Prescott  31:08  
And my math teacher in in grade school says, We're not here to socialize. Y'all,

Brian Nichols  31:15  
that's true. And really quick, I just want to highlight you mentioned earlier, Jonathan, critical thinking skills. This will be my final thoughts, and it's a little bit of a story. So right now, I am working with a group of alumni from my my private institution of higher education back when I was a young lad, and we wrote a very strongly worded letter, basically highlighting two main points over the past few years. Number one, the college's complete just failure when it came to their response for COVID-19. And forcing students to get vaccinated or to just physically step on campus, completely dystopian completely ignores the ideas of body bodily autonomy, so on and so forth. The second part we talked about was the the just creeping increase of dei on the college campus. And this is just represents across the board what we've seen happen. Now, my college right, I'm going to give some credit where credit's due back when I went to college there, the college president who had been there for 25 years at that point, he was a like a true educator, he wanted to see people think critically understand the why behind why you believe things. And the way that he framed the college specifically for incoming freshmen was built to be in such a manner. So we actually required all incoming freshmen, regardless of major to take freshman writing classes. And in those freshman writing classes, one of the main overarching themes was critical thinking and critical writing skills. Now, fast forward to today, when this very strongly worded letter that I helped Penn, to send over to the VP of institutional advancement and alumni relationships at my college, I sent that back in April and yesterday, yesterday, I received a response. And oh, what a response it was, it was very interesting to read this response because the response from that VP, in in, we made a very well laid out strong, not just argument but morally correct position in our original concerns, basically, going back to and just regurgitating what they had been told, here's why dei is good. And here's why the COVID vaccines in mandates were good. And I sent a response in a critical thinking manner, not only just very delicate, not needing delicately, just just asking very common sense questions, you know, the ideas about meritocracy versus just, you know, affirmative actions, bias, looking at the ideas of, you know, force compliance, versus medical and bodily autonomy. And it's just it was very, it was a very, like, eye opening moment for me to see I'm not anybody special. I'm a sales executive and leader in technology industry. That's my job. I do a political show for funds. I like talking about this stuff with with really cool people like you guys, but then to see the response from someone who they're a VP they know all these things. They're wise, right? And you know, they haven't. Yeah, and they haven't, they're their email signature, like, I am a first generation and I just go a first gen. Okay, a first generation war, like you were playing this game, I understand it okay. But to see that there was such a lack of thought, in the response, and it was entirely based on accepted platitudes that were forced fed by name, the government bureaucracy or the groupthink mentality that completely removes critical thinking skills. So I say that story, I tell that story, to help paint the picture that this isn't just something that's happening in the traditional schooling structure that we're so used to K through 12. But this is also very much alive and well in our higher education centers if I can even call it that. And it's being perpetuated by the people who think that they have some moral or principled high ground, because of the title they have next to their name or the institution of higher education they attended. It's a bunch of farce. It's a bunch of nonsense you as a parent can do a way better job teaching, not just your kids, the basics, but I can almost guarantee you can do a better job of teaching your kids, things that are applicable for real life success, way more than a college of higher education. So that's my final thoughts. I know I went off there, but Jonathan and Adriana, what do you have for us on your end? And with that, obviously, we want people to buy this book and support the amazing work you guys are doing there. So a call to action would be appreciated as well. Oh, yes.

Adriana Prescott  35:49  
Yes. Get our book, it's a great primer, you get a good background. And basically, it'll give you courage to do homeschooling. And you'll realize that anyone can actually to

Jonathan Prescott  36:01  
write and just a final thought for me on the critical thinking is really going to bake your brain when you realize that there's a difference between critical thinking and analytical thinking. That's that's your that's your that's somebody's whoever in your audience. Go look at the look that up and see. See the subtle differences that exist?

Adriana Prescott  36:23  
Yes. And we are homeschool life. That's our company, and we can be reached at homeschool life that us and we will have courses for parents soon this year. Yes.

Brian Nichols  36:34  
And, by the way, it's funny you say that because one of the questions I neglected to ask was, well, where do we start? Here you go, you're gonna have courses. So instead of parents being like, I don't know how to build a curriculum, I guess we have some help. Yes.

Adriana Prescott  36:47  
And in the meantime, you can follow us on Facebook and annex.

Jonathan Prescott  36:50  
Right, and so on. On next I keep wanting to call it Twitter. Certainly. And, but it's a homeschool Underbar LLC, you can find us there. Fantastic. And the Facebook is the Facebook. Kids don't need school all one word. And

Brian Nichols  37:08  
by the way, just so everybody in the audience isn't sitting there, you know, frantically scratching down those names or steering off the road trying to get their phones out to capture that now we're going to have all those links in the show notes. That's gonna be super easy to find including your your website. So folks, if you got some value from today's episode, which I know you did, please go ahead and yes, give it a share. When you do tag yours truly on Instagram xx.com. Yes, Twitter and Facebook, you can find me at B. Nichols liberty, we'll make sure again, we include those links for both Jonathan and Adriana in the show notes as well as for homeschool LLC or homeschool life LLC, excuse me. And then we'll also include the links for kids don't need school in the show notes as well. Now for the podcast slash video version of the show, when you're sharing the show, please make sure that you tag your friends share. That's how we actually reach more people. We could do marketing ad buys, we could do you know sponsorship ad buys, just literally you as a member of the audience, sharing the show, telling your friends to check out the show that is the number one way that we can reach more people. So I know you guys are sharing the show, by the way, so thank you for that. But when you shared the show, yes, you can share the video version of the show. We got YouTube rumble, Twitter, Facebook, we're uploading the video versions of the show in their entirety over there. And for the podcast, Apple podcast, Spotify, YouTube music, literally wherever it is you consume your content, your podcast content, just hit that download all unplayed episodes. And here's the reason. Recently, YouTube has been a little bit of a pain in my ass. And they've been giving me some warnings about violent content, harmful content, all because over the past five years of the COVID insanity. So we made a very tough decision here at the show. And we said fine, we're going to nuke like probably 5060 videos that were on YouTube, because we wants to have a presence on YouTube. But I knew for a fact that our days are numbered there. So what we did was we removed some of those videos. Those episodes, though, are still available in their entirety over on the main website, Brian Nichols show.com, as well as in the podcast form. So if you want to check out all 850 episodes in their entirety, all topics discussed no holds barred. Go to the podcast version all 100 are from episode one to Episode 850 You're gonna have some awesome conversations ranging from what's happened over the past five years we talk about homeschooling we talk about relationships, we talk about sex, drugs, rock and roll, all that fun stuff. Not so much rock and roll but we should talk more about rock and roll. I like that topic. Other than that, yes, everything available over at the homepage, Brian Nichols show.com One last plug. I do have to do this really quick guys. That is to just super thank you to this amazing folks who support us and that is our sponsors. So cardio miracle.com They're phenomenal. Please go ahead get them some love. We have our awesome new sponsors we have our good buddy Dan Berman and his liquid at Freedom energy tea with literally seven ingredients on here seven ingredients you go to a monster or a Red Bull energy drink check the ingredients out there you're gonna be spending about three hours reading through them all and trying to figure out how to pronounce them so stop putting poison into your body get some liquid freedom energy tea link in the show notes use CO T BNS for $5 Off we have our liberty Emporium or any Emporium sponsor there Michael Scott 2024 shirts. So all those amazing sponsors can be found over on our homepage, Brian Nichols show.com support them because they're the folks who support us. Last thoughts words of advice? Jonathan Adriana Jump ball where do you guys want to wrap things up today as we say goodbye.

Jonathan Prescott  40:46  
Homeschooling is your parent child relationship is your superpower is the for homeschooling, sorry. The parent child relationship is your superpower.

Adriana Prescott  41:01  
Pretty much and prepare them for independent learning because that's that's the way the future is going in this era. If they don't know how to learn on their own. They're not going to make it. So home here.

Brian Nichols  41:12  
Here here. All right, Jonathan. And Adriana, thank you so much for joining us, folks. Again, if you got some value, go ahead and give it a share. But when you do again, tag yours truly. Ebina goes Liberty links for Jonathan and Adriana in the show notes. Otherwise, it's all we have for you. Brian Nichols signing off here on The Brian Nichols Show for our friends over at the homeschool life, LLC. We'll see you next time.

Jonathan Prescott  41:34  
Thank you very much.

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