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Feb. 12, 2024

810: Charged $23K Tax to Build on My Own Land?!

A retiree fights an extortionate $23,000 California home-building fee all the way to the Supreme Court to defend property rights and rein in a dystopian system allowing unchecked legislative power grabs that drive up housing prices.

Can local governments charge you thousands of dollars just to build a home on your own land?

 

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That's the key question explored in this episode of The Brian Nichols Show. Host Brian Nichols is joined by guest Brian Hodges, a senior attorney from the Pacific Legal Foundation, to discuss an outrageous $23,000+ fee charged to retiree George Sheetz simply for obtaining a permit to build a home.

The exorbitant charge was labeled a "traffic impact mitigation fee" by El Dorado County, California. However, as Brian Hodges explains, the fee had little to do with the actual traffic impact caused by George Sheetz's modest single-family home. Instead, it was an illegal scheme by the county to generate revenue for road projects by disproportionately targeting future residents who had no say in the decision.

After being stonewalled in California's state courts, the case made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court. As Brian Hodges outlines, the central issue is whether legislative bodies should be exempt from constitutional restraints on imposing permit fees and conditions. Based on questioning, he is cautiously optimistic that the Court will reject California's dystopian rule allowing unchecked power. A win could have major implications for reining in outrageous fees that drive up housing prices nationwide.

The case has sparked surprising bipartisan support from both property rights advocates and affordable housing groups who recognize the threats posed by unlimited government overreach. As this episode makes clear, upholding constitutional checks and balances is critical, regardless of whether decisions come from an administrator or a legislative body. Tune in to hear the inside story direct from the Pacific Legal Foundation attorney fighting this landmark battle on behalf of George Sheetz all the way to the highest court in the land.

 

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Brian Nichols  
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Brian Hodges  
Good. Thanks for having me.

Brian Nichols  
Great to have you on the show. And thank you for yes discussing this very interesting topic. I know you guys over the Pacific legal foundation, you guys always have some very fun ways you're helping save our constitutional rights when you're bringing a really important cases to the Supreme Court. But before we dig into today's case that we're going to discuss at hand let's do the audience a favor. Introduce yourself, Brian to The Brian Nichols Show audience. And then let's set the timeline for this case that we're going to discuss today. Well,

Brian Hodges  
briefly, I'm a senior attorney at Pacific legal foundation. I've been working at the foundation now for 18 years. Really fighting in defense of property rights and advocating for to get laws out of the way that frustrate the production of housing.

Brian Nichols  
So let's hope there we go. So let's go into this specific case. So this is the case of sheets V El Dorado County. So at play here is a traffic impact mitigation fee. Set let's set the stage here for us. Brian, you have George sheets he's applying for this this permit to build a single family home and his land isn't 2016 and all sudden he's hit with a fee. This Tim fee 23,420 $90 That's the starting off point. Take us from there.

Brian Hodges  
Yeah, well, let me just back up a little bit. You know, George sheets has worked most of his life in the county, had a home in the county bought a parcel of land where he wanted to build a house where he could retire. He's facing retirement wants to live there with his wife and raise his grandson. So he makes plans, he's worked his whole life, he pays for the property has that paid off, his plan was to pay off the home and live off of what he had saved up. So he was shocked when he went into the county to pick up his permit. And, you know, you're used to ordinary fees, like, you know, there is a permit processing fee there are, you know, sewer connection fees, things like that. But when he was handed his bill, it had this exceptional line item on it over $23,000 for what they claim to be traffic impact mitigation fees. And he asked them, what, you know, we're a retired couple, how in the world can we have this much impact? What is this based on? And the permit official said, you don't like it, you don't have to have a house, pay it, or you don't get a house. So that's really the origin of this fight. Back in 2016. He was told, basically, if you want to build a house, you're gonna have to pay us Don't ask any questions as to, you know, how we came up with this huge fee. But George wasn't going to put up with that. George decided to fight the case. And as it progressed, we, you're looking into how the county came up with this fee. It's not for Georgia's impacts. But the county decided that they Well, they wanted more money to build roads, they didn't want to tax people because people don't like taxes. And you they may get voted out. They didn't want to put the fees on business, because you know, business is a big revenue generator, they wanted to make it easier for new businesses to come in. So who is going to pay? Well, the easiest people to target are people who aren't there yet. You know, people who have to build a new home. You're they aren't currently in the county to protest when these fees are passed. So So what they did was they took this whole bucket of, of money that they needed, and put it on people who come to the county and build a new home.

Brian Nichols  
Wow. So that you this case was in I must MSA California, Cali, California. My apologies to my family who lives in California, it will in laws. But I digress. Now, you guys, this went through the California State courts. They rejected sheets claims, right and the Supreme Court they denied review 2013. In May you guys then bring this up to the Supreme Court walk us through their like, what was the argument to the Supreme Court and maybe help set the stage in terms of like what this this going to the Supreme Court could do for property owners like Mr. sheets here?

Brian Hodges  
Yeah, to understand why the US Supreme Court took the case, I have to kind of travel a little bit back into the state court proceedings. The reason why the county was able to get away with this kind of fee shifting, you know, making George pay for the impacts of new business and things like that was because California had adopted a rule. Typically, fees, there are a couple of US Supreme Court cases called nollan v. California Coastal Commission and Dolan v. City of Tigard. That established that these sorts of demands when the government conditions a permit on some sort of like dedication to the public, that they have to be sufficiently justified, that they have to be based on the impacts of that development. So in George's case, they would have had to have been based on you know, the, the impacts of him and his wife building a single family home. Not and you can't put the burdens of neighbor's of commercial development of, you know, anything else. You can't make him pay that. But in California, the courts had adopted a rule that said, well, that only applies when it's the permit desk who makes the decision when the county board of supervisors or some legislative body says you will pay you will give property? Well, we're not going to hold that to any level of scrutiny, we're just going to let them take what they want. So when George took his case through the California courts, of course, he was denied under that California court rule that says that legislators can take what they want, and that there won't be this heightened level of review a little

Brian Nichols  
dystopian, a little a watch. Like that. Yeah.

Brian Hodges  
But it sets the stage for what happened to George is if if there's going to be no meaningful review, what's going to stop cities or counties from putting more and more into that bucket of money that they demand?

Brian Nichols  
So Brian, oral arguments, and let's go to the supreme court right now, by the way, folks who are wondering, you guys, Brian, at the Pacific Legal Foundation, were just in front of the Supreme Court back in early January. So we're still kind of waiting for the ruling to come down. But oral arguments usually can give a little bit of context in terms of where the justices heads are at. So in the questions and maybe in some of the questions from the justices based on the arguments being presented, kind of what's your gut telling you like? Where are some of the justices kind of leaning right now based on how those arguments were framed?

Brian Hodges  
Yeah, well, the question that we presented to the US Supreme Court and and that they granted review on was whether there was some sort of legislative exception to this is called the doctrine of unconstitutional conditions. It's a type of regulatory taking argument that says that you can't use the opportunity of somebody having to ask the government for permission to use their property as a way of exacting or extorting them into giving up property, your money. The arguments went on that question went very well, at one point, Justice Gorsuch noted what he called Radical agreement among the justices in the parties that there is no exception that, that the Constitution applies to government, not just a single branch of government, and that if you were to exempt a branch of government from the Constitution, it would basically just, you know, create such a game. It's such a massive loophole that they could get away with just about anything. So you're confident that on the question presented, that, you know, the courts questioning indicates that they're that they're not interested in endorsing California's rule that said that legislatures are, are free from the restraints of the constitution.

Brian Nichols  
So I kind of teased this question earlier. I'll circle back to it. Now. If you like Jen Psaki, we're gonna circle back now, Brian, what do you think this is going to set from a precedence win or lose? Right? Like, let Okay, how about this, let's paint the picture both ways. When what what does this do for landowners property owners going forward? Or lose right now? I preface that, that question with based on what it sounds like it might be leaning, it might be the win route, but just just in case, we need to hear that that last scenario. So pink paints a discrepancy for those two pictures for us, if you would,

Brian Hodges  
yeah. And the discrepancy really highlights why this is such an important case. A win? Well, let me start with the lose a lose would mean that legislative demands would get basically rubber stamped by the court. So the legislature could say things like, if you want to build a home, you have to give us you know, the fronts, the first front half of your property, we're going to turn it into a park or we're going to open up your property to the public, or we're going to demand really, if there's no review, there's no real limit to how much they can demand. We're going to demand that you pay your $20,000 $40,000 $100,000 into some public fund like a like a park fund or something like that. There would be no meaningful throttle on those sorts of demands. And you know, what that means is that home prices that are already skyrocketing, would be going up exponentially. So if $100,000 of fees was put on a home, add that onto the price tag. fewer homes get built, fewer people have the opportunity to get into homes. That is the consequence. If if we had an adverse decision in this case, if legislatures So we're held to be free of the constraints of the Constitution. Now, if the court rules in our favor, and says that these sorts of legislative demands are subject to the Constitution, specifically the cases that I mentioned earlier, Nolan and Dolan, it's a much better view of the future for people who are interested in property in liberty in transparent governments. Because what I would say is government, you're still able to make demands that are properly measured, to mitigate for some externality. So if I'm going to, you know, pave my parking lot, and it's going to cause water runoff, you can require me to do something. So that doesn't harm the public or harm neighbors. What you can't do is used the fact that I'm having to ask you for permission to use my land to steal. So what a ruling in our favor would mean that property owners get a meaningful day in court so that they can question the government, and they can force the government to lay out its reasons to justify these sorts of permit conditions.

Brian Nichols  
So, Brian, seven years, right, this has been going through the legal system, and the ideological makeup of the Supreme Court itself, even in those short, seven years, it's changed quite a bit. So do you see that this type of a case may be will be more looked at, in a favorable lens with the new shifting, ideological perspective of the Supreme Court, obviously, going in a much more, I would say, conservative, more liberty oriented direction you highlighted with one, Neil Gorsuch, who I'd say is probably the most Liberty oriented Supreme Court justice we have. So do you find that maybe this is more of a door opening now based on the opportunity that presents itself with the timing of the current makeup of the Supreme Court to get more of these pro Liberty pro property like property right cases before the Supreme Court, frankly, before God knows what happens, or dare I say it's too late,

Brian Hodges  
you know, in the current court has shown a lot more interest in property rights. In this case, so the question about the question that they accepted review on is, seems so obvious that you know that a legislature should not be that a legislative body should not be free of the demands of the federal constitution, that your Justice Sotomayor, in her questioning was very critical of the government's arguments when it came to, you know, the any sort of rule that would hold the legislature to a different standard. And she also echoed the same concerns that Justice Gorsuch did so just like some of the cases that we've recently brought up to the courts like the Geraldine Tyler B Hennepin County, that was the home equity theft case, which garnered broad support by the justices without regard to their where they lie on on ideological spectrum. We believe that this issue, also should Garner broad support. Now, when you get down to the brass tacks, like how these tests work and the level of scrutiny, that's where you start to see a divide among the justices with more liberty based justices holding government to a higher standard of proof than the more progressive justices.

Brian Nichols  
All right, Brian, I have one final question. And this kind of goes to maybe finding some common ground with some folks that you wouldn't normally find common ground with, and I think you mentioned this with the US, Justice Sotomayor. And, you know, I think one of the things I heard wasn't, isn't there. I'm on the for affordable housing advocate group that that's also filing an amicus brief with you guys as well. Or did I not maybe hear that?

Brian Hodges  
Well? Yeah. You know what? Yes, yes, it was, you know, housing interest filed an amicus brief with us. And, you know, that goes back to what I was saying that without government transparency and without the ability to take these sorts of cases to court to analyze the are the most extreme fees. These are the ones that that make it up to the US Supreme Court. Ordinary fees typically don't get challenged and typically don't make it very far. If it's a supportable fee, nobody's going to waste their money chasing litigation there. It's the extraordinary and the extraordinary cases show that if these are left unchecked, the cost of housing is going to go up because of government sees permits as a way to raise money without having to raise taxes. You can, you know, you guarantee you that they're going to exploit that opportunity until it breaks. And doing so just drives up the cost of homes.

Brian Nichols  
Let no good crisis go to waste. Isn't that be the Rahm Emanuel approach to governance? Jeez, Brian, we're getting towards the the tail end of the episode here. So we like to do is a little segment we call final thoughts. So I'll let you kick things off here. What would you like the audience to take away from today's episode? So they're going to wrap this up in a nice bow? Well,

Brian Hodges  
to realize that, you know, we're across the nation, we're facing a we hear about this housing crisis. What it really is, is a supply and demand problem, that not enough homes are being built at all price points across the full spectrum from entry level to to the highest homes. One of the main reasons and this was recognized as far back as the Reagan administration, one of the main reasons that home prices are going up is the cost of regulation. Now, there's some regulation that is going on that is necessary. But a lot of it's unnecessary. And what we need to do is to be able to police the unnecessary and costly regulations, to make sure that there are more homes are produced across all price points, and just get rid of things like these excessive traffic fees, you know, things like that, that all they do is stymie production and take personal wealth.

Brian Nichols  
Brian Hodges, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show. And by the way, you mentioned that case, we actually had Jim Burling on the show to talk about this case, Geraldine Tyler. She's a 94 year old woman who had it was a $25,000. Was it $25,000, the government decided to take on her property, and he's like, entirely steal her, her property from underneath her. So there's a whole case there being built out Jim outlines in detail. If you're joining us on the YouTube version of the show, stick around after the credits rule link will pop up right about here with my conversation with Jim where we dig into that and more. So if you are yes, joining us on the video version of the show. Well, thank you, by the way for doing that. Make sure you do yourself a favor by the way, hit subscribe, and hit that little notification bell so you don't miss a single time we go live and also do me a favor hit that like button because that helps more folks and the algorithms for whatever reason. That's how YouTube works. shows more of The Brian Nichols Show to more of our lively audience to please help the show out. And by the way, yes, we are not just on YouTube, we are on a bunch of other different video platforms. You can find me on rumble Ben swans sovereign spelled s o v r en which by the way, if you are checking us out over there today, you're seeing today's episode before anybody else, that's your sovereign exclusive. Plus, we upload our episodes in their entirety to x.com formerly Twitter as well as Facebook. And by the way, we are an audio version as well for a podcast so go ahead to your favorite podcast catcher on Apple podcast, Spotify, YouTube music, I like podcast attic, hit subscribe, and then hit download all unplayed episodes. If you're a new subscriber here to The Brian Nichols Show, which I know we've been getting dozens and dozens of subscribers daily. It seems like as we joined amp American, we're reaching tons and tons of new people. So if you are new to The Brian Nichols Show go through, we have over 800 episodes of the program. You can go through from different topics. You know, we're talking about economics, health care, we're talking about cultural issues, all that and more. So please go ahead and hit download all unplayed episodes, I guarantee a few of them are more than a few will leave you educated, enlightened and informed and then where you can follow us find us on social media. Yes, Twitter x.com. As well as Facebook, you can find me at V. Nichols, liberty, Brian, where can folks go ahead and reach out to you but also support the Pacific legal foundation and learn more about all the other great cases that you guys are going out and fighting on behalf of folks in the world of liberty?

Brian Hodges  
Yeah, if you visit our website at WWW dot Pacific legal dot o RG you can find case pages for this case and really all the cases that we litigate we have a pretty robust blog a we have videos that we post so you can find pretty much everything there and if you wanted to get in touch with attorneys, there's also a case submission form on the site. Great

Brian Nichols  
stuff links all in the show notes plus, remember I said I was gonna say include that link with our great conversation with Jim Burling from the Pacific legal foundation as well talking about that, yes, very sad case of Geraldine Tyler, but have no fear. We also have some good news to that case, which also we talked about in a later episode. So make sure you go through and give it a subscribe and give it a listen. And also one final thing and that is for me, to please ask you members of the audience to support those who support The Brian Nichols Show and that is our sponsors. So please support our amazing sponsors over at liquid freedom energy T evil CBD cardio miracle B, NC technology advisors and more. If you'd go to the episode page over on our website, you will see all four of those awesome, awesome sponsors listed right there to the right. But if you go to our general sponsor page, you'll see all of the sponsors we have here at The Brian Nichols Show. And yes, they are the folks who help us keep the lights on so please go ahead and support them. And when you do use your code TBNS at checkout, and you'll get your special discount whether that's 15% off a $5 discount here, free ebooks here all that kind of fun stuff. So thank you again for supporting the folks who support us with that being said, that's all we have for you today. Brian Nichols signing off, you're on The Brian Nichols Show for Brian Hodges from the Pacific legal foundation. We'll see you next time.

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Brian

Hodges

Brian Hodges is a senior attorney with Pacific Legal Foundation, where he advocates for liberty-based solutions to the housing crisis and defending the right of individuals to make reasonable use of their property, free of unnecessary and oppressive regulation.

As part of his work at PLF, Brian authored the certiorari petition in Koontz v. St. Johns River Water Management District, a U.S. Supreme Court case that placed important constitutional limits on the government’s all-too-common practice of demanding that landowners fund public projects in exchange for a building permit—a practice that has fueled the skyrocketing rents and home prices across the nation. Brian was also on the litigation team that argued Knick v. Township of Scott to the U.S. Supreme Court, securing a homeowner’s right to bring her federal constitutional claims in a federal court.

Brian regularly publishes articles and lectures on property rights at law schools and conferences. His numerous legal publications include Are Critical Area Buffers Unconstitutional? Demystifying the Doctrine of Unconstitutional Conditions in 8 Seattle Journal of Environmental Law 1 (2017), in which he argues that permit approvals conditioned on the dedication of a conservation easement—like any other demand for money or property—must be subject to meaningful judicial scrutiny to ensure that the permit process is not being used to take private property. He also wrote an article updating the law of temporary takings in Will Arkansas Game & Fish Commission v. United States Provide a Permanent Fix for Temp… Read More

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Serving Your Clients By Being Uniquely You & By Bringing The Human Touch

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Dec. 15, 2021

407: How to Build a "Dream Team" -with Dane Espegard

How can dreaming big and focusing on bettering the individual help us build phenomenal teams?

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March 16, 2022

462: Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other (with Cor…

Talking about difficult topics doesn't have to be as bad as we think.

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Nov. 30, 2022

633: 5 Ways to INSTANTLY Improve Your Persuasion & Communication Skil…

Persuasion is a crucial skill for anyone in business—whether you're convincing your boss to give you a raise or trying to close a client on the phone. But it's not as easy as it sounds. In fact, some people spend …

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March 27, 2021

BONUS: The Ugly Truth About the Lockdowns (Time to Reopen Society) -w…

The data, facts, and realities of COVID were far away from what the media and public health institutions were presenting to the world at the advent of the pandemic. And while the controlling narrative was that of lockdowns and fear …

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Jan. 6, 2023

654: How to WIN Your Local Election - FREE EBOOK SNEAK PEEK!

Win Your Local Election: Tips and Strategies from Our Free Ebook

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March 24, 2022

468: Upending Outdated Approaches to Medical Research & Enabling Univ…

Healthcare access should not be limited to the wealthy, the insured, or the geographically well located. Healing is for everyone.

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Nov. 11, 2022

622: Can Libertarianism Help Save the WORLD?!

On today's episode, I present a series of reasons why libertarianism offers some brilliant solutions to many of the world's problems. We'll talk about 5 ways in which libertarianism can save humanity.

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Oct. 18, 2022

608: Eternal Spring - The Falun Gong's Fight Against Communist Chines…

Today, we discuss the Falun Gong's fight against Chinese Communist Party propaganda and persecution, as we dig into the story of a group of heroes who sought to highjack the CCP corporate television broadcasts in 2002.

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Oct. 11, 2022

603: Changing Hearts, Minds, & Laws to Build a Freer Society

Market-based solutions that create change, and how they're working to make people aware of the power they have to change their government.

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March 16, 2022

461: NFL Extravaganza: BuyTheBroncos DOA! (with Sean O'Brien)

The Denver Broncos are officially up for sale, and a group of cryptocurrency enthusiasts are planning on putting their hat in the ring!

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Sept. 20, 2022

588: Good People Bring Out the Good in People - The Importance of Com…

I've known Remso for about a number of years and have been thoroughly impressed with his ability to connect with others and create meaningful relationships with them. This quality is what drove him to start Club Memos—a group dedicated to …

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March 25, 2022

469: Why This Chinese Immigrant Fears the United States is on a Path …

“I fear the country I love is becoming like the country I left.”

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May 3, 2021

240: The Unified Theory of Scare Stories -with Dr. Patrick Moore

What are the two emotions that drive buyers into action? Love and...? Fear. Knowing that, how is fear being using to sell us on massive government policies with price tags ranging from the billions and even trillions of dollars. Dr. …

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March 29, 2022

471: You Can Do It! Spread Positivity... Recklessly! (feat. Brian Nic…

How can changing your outlook help your mental health AND your career prospects!?

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April 4, 2022

473: Mastering the Upsell (with Victor Antonio)

The fastest way to revenue growth is not finding new business - it's upselling to your existing customer base!

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June 11, 2021

262: Imagine A World Without Veteran Suicide -with Wyly Gray from Vet…

How can a plant known as the "vine of the dead" help heal instead of simply treating symptoms in the living?

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April 15, 2022

482: Why Do the Elites HATE Elon Musk So Much!? (with Hannah Cox & Br…

On today's episode of The Brian Nichols Show, I'm joined by Hannah Cox and Brad Polumbo to discuss Elon Musk potentially buying Twitter, and why the elites have been reacting like it's "the end of the world". "I just I …

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April 27, 2022

490: Building a Story Brand and Using the Right Strategies (with Morg…

On today's episode of The Brian Nichols Show, I'm joined by Morgan Bonwell (Founder, Right Strategies) to discuss the importance of building a storybrand to help candidates and campaigns effectively meet their constituents wh...

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July 28, 2021

289: The Future of Nuclear Energy -with Mark Schneider

How is nuclear energy a solution to climate change, energy independence, and planetary prosperity?

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May 2, 2022

493: Can't Sell, Won't Sell - Advertising, Politics, & Culture Wars (…

Why adland has stopped selling and started saving the world.

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May 5, 2022

496: Tolerance vs. Acceptance & Setting Narratives vs. Responding to …

Tolerance isn't blind acceptance. Nor is it tacit acceptance.

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May 6, 2022

497: Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom! (with Dr. Patri…

Returning to The Brian Nichols Show today is Dr. Patrick Moore (Author, "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom") to discuss how most of the scare stories in the media today are based on things that are invisible, li...

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May 9, 2022

498: How to Talk About Roe v. Wade /Abortion without Tempers Flaring …

The conversation towards abortion/Roe v. Wade has always been a heated discussion... but does it have to be that way?

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May 11, 2022

500: 5 of My Favorite Episodes From Over the Past 500 Shows (feat. Br…

After 4 and 1/2 years, we've hit an incredible milestone at The Brian Nichols Show. Not only have we hit the top 1.5% of podcasts globally , but we have just reached our 500th episode! Today, I'm sharing 5 of …

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May 17, 2022

504: How Has Inflation Impacted Small Business? (with David Belman)

Inflation has been felt at the grocery store, at the gas pump, at the car dealership, traveling.... okay, pretty much everywhere. And yes, that means that the home building industry has been hit just as hard. How hard has it …

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Aug. 18, 2021

300: The Undefeated Marketing System -with Phillip Stutts

How to grow your business and build your audience using the secret formula that elects presidents.

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Oct. 29, 2021

365: How Do You Ask Great Questions?! -with Tim Wackel

Asking great questions. It is both a science AND an art.

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Nov. 8, 2021

375: Being Courageous in the Name of Freedom & Truth (Feat. Dr. Adria…

"The word freedom is very important, because it's not discussed freely and openly and courageously in academia."

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June 7, 2022

518: How Is this Old-School Retro Gamer Enhancing the Sales Experienc…

When people are best friends with other people, they usually stay at a company.

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July 17, 2023

748: Grassroots Efforts & Local Elections - Establishing Trust with V…

Discover Joshua Toms' journey from socialist to a Libertarian City Council candidate, as he shares insights on wealth disparity, social issues, and the impact of local politics in Lebanon, Ohio,

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July 15, 2023

747: Decoding the Path to Victory - 2024 Election Insights for Trump,…

@rkmcshane discuss the path to victory for top GOP & DNC candidates, shedding light on campaign strategies, key issues, and the challenges faced in the ever-evolving political landscape.

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Sept. 29, 2021

335: You're Selling Change! -with Victor Antonio

Stop overthinking the sales process... remember that you're selling change!

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April 10, 2023

711: Do You Know What's REALLY in Your Cannabis Products? 🌿

CEO Brian Fitzpatrick of @GetInQredible discusses how his company is using blockchain and third-party verification to ensure safe, quality CBD products in the cannabis industry.

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Feb. 9, 2023

678: How to Build Trust (Works EVERY SINGLE Time)

Discover the key to success in leadership with trust expert Darryl Stickel on the importance of trust in organizations and society

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Jan. 30, 2023

670: The COVID Conspiracy - UNMASKED

@NickHudsonCT unmasks the TRUTH behind the COVID-19 pandemic and its political connections in this episode of The Brian Nichols Show

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Dec. 3, 2021

396: Cutting Through the Clutter -with Art Sobczak

"The only way to cut through the clutter is to have a message that is going to resonate with the prospect and what's going on in their world, right at that very moment."

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Nov. 2, 2022

616: GOP vs. LP? - Are We Winning Hearts & Minds, Winning Elections, …

Are we winning hearts and minds, winning elections, or both? On today's episode, I'm joined by Kenny Cody and Jeremy Todd to talk about Blake Masters recently receiving the endorsement of Libertarian US Senate candidate, Marc Victor, and the implications …

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Oct. 21, 2022

611: Fighting for What Matters - Kyle Sefcik, Unaffiliated Write-In f…

On today's episode, I'm joined once again by Kyle Sefcik, Unaffiliated Write-In for Governor of Maryland!

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Sept. 23, 2022

591: To Sell Freedom, Listen More

On today's episode, we're going back to January 2021, when I joined Matt Kibbe on his program, Kibbe on Liberty.

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Jan. 1, 2022

423: 2021's TOP 3 STORIES OF THE YEAR (Crossover episode with Eric Br…

Eric Brakey and Brian Nichols break down the top stories of 2021!

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Dec. 27, 2021

419: Let's Talk Omicron -with Dr. Eric Larson

Mass hysteria and weaponized hypochondria have no place in healthcare.

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Sept. 12, 2022

582: Call Scripting 101 - Proven Call Scripting Tips to Help you DOMI…

Today, I'll also be sharing some of my own personal call scripts that have worked for me and will give you some tips on how to create a great script that will help you in your day-to-day sales activities.

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Sept. 6, 2022

578: The Danger of "DO SOMETHING!" Politics

Do you ever feel like your government is making decisions without really knowing what it's doing? On today's episode, Rodgir and I discuss the danger of "do something" politics and how this type of thinking can lead to bad policy …

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July 18, 2022

547: HERO 22-Year-Old Ends Mass-Shooting - How a Good Guy with a Gun …

When a madman with a rifle started shooting at an Indiana mall this past weekend, a good guy with a gun stopped him—and saved countless lives.

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Feb. 21, 2022

446: Sell Different! (with Lee Salz)

How can selling different help you win more business?

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Nov. 26, 2021

391: The #1 Thing Holding You Back From Closing More Business (feat. …

Brian Nichols: "Why why is it so hard to close business? Because we make it harder than it actually has to be." Check out today's special solo episode where we dig into how to adapt with the changes, plus helping …

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Aug. 24, 2022

569: Never Fly Solo & The 7 Wingman Principles

On today's episode, I'm joined by Lt. Col Waldo Waldman to talk about leading with courage, building trusting partnerships, and reaching new heights in business.

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July 21, 2023

749: Rethinking the College Experience - Student Loan Forgiveness & t…

@JP_Kirby explores the alarming decline of confidence in American higher education, discussing the impact of student loan forgiveness, indoctrination on campuses, and the importance of empowering students to reclaim their freedoms and make informed choices for a brighter future.

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July 28, 2023

751: Bitcoin - The Future of Money in a Digital World!?

@adamobrien_ joins to discuss the world of Bitcoin, exploring its potential future in the cryptocurrency industry, the importance of autonomous banking, and the risks and rewards of decentralized finance.

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Aug. 8, 2023

756: Winning Hearts & Votes - The Power of Persuasion in Political Ca…

@libertywoody unveils innovative tactics for flipping political landscapes, leveraging sales and marketing approaches to connect with voters, and dismantling traditional strongholds.

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Aug. 16, 2023

759: Cold Calling Mastery with The SDR Whisperer - Prospecting SECRET…

Former pastor turned sales pro Jacob Tacher reveals the transferrable skills of questioning, listening, storytelling, and relationship-building he honed in ministry to become an expert in the art of cold calling and sales prospecting.

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Sept. 3, 2023

764: The Political Marketing Playbook - The Ultimate Guide to Politic…

Robert Lee discusses why candidates need to connect with people's issues and provide valuable solutions without anger, discussing the secrets behind successful political marketing campaigns and the importance of connecting with voters on a personal level.

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Sept. 8, 2023

766: Your Potential UNLOCKED - The NFL Exec's Secrets to Playing Offe…

Former NFL executive @PaulEpsteinLA reveals his strategies for playing offense in business and life, overcoming adversity, making fast confident decisions, and building unshakeable confidence by consistently acting on your values.

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Sept. 28, 2023

772: The Creativity CRISIS - Chad Stewart on Igniting Creativity & Pr…

Chad Stewart discusses how schools are killing creativity in kids and solutions like homeschooling to nurture imagination and empower the next generation.

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Oct. 13, 2023

776: Alone No More - How the WhiteFlag App is Rewriting the Rules on …

@RealSpikeCohen and @whiteflagapp founder @Jonny_McCoy have a raw, inspiring discussion about embracing peer support and human connection to transform mental health and save lives.

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Dec. 2, 2023

788: Common Ground for Uncommon Times - How to Break Bread Without Br…

Brian Nichols & @Jtodd601 expose the conversational pitfalls sabotaging holiday political talks and detail tactics to foster genuine dialogue on charged issues.

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Dec. 22, 2023

794: Selling Below the Surface - Navigating Hidden Buying Motivators …

Host Brian Nichols and guest Karl Becker discuss transforming sales through embracing the powerful human truths and motivations lying below the surface that typical tactics never uncover.

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Dec. 28, 2023

796: Is Our Food System Failing Us?

After overcoming her own health crisis, Sonia Gomez is on a mission to transform our broken food system by empowering families to take control of their health and build self-reliance through homesteading.

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Feb. 7, 2024

808: Bill Maher EXPOSED as FAKE "Libertarian"

Biden's reckless spending fuels historic inflation that crushes families, while Bill Maher's fake libertarian virtue signaling is exposed by Patrick Bet-David's principled consistency.

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Feb. 12, 2024

810: Charged $23K Tax to Build on My Own Land?!

A retiree fights an extortionate $23,000 California home-building fee all the way to the Supreme Court to defend property rights and rein in a dystopian system allowing unchecked legislative power grabs that drive up housing prices.

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Feb. 15, 2024

811: The Kitchen Table Strategy - Changing Minds Where It Matters Most

Amid despairing predictions, Brian makes an impassioned case that ordinary citizens reclaiming active empowerment through local community renewal centered on timeless truths, not partisan politics, can rescue the fraying American fabric.

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March 9, 2024

819: Laughter vs. Lunacy - Redefining Extremism in the Age of Woke Cu…

In this groundbreaking episode, recorded during Amp America's first-ever Twitter/X Spaces, Brian Nichols and "The eXtremist Files" producer Matt Edwards explore the power of satire in challenging extreme political narratives, revealing how humor can be a potent tool for exposing …

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March 14, 2024

822: The School Choice REVOLUTION - Parental Power in a New Era of Ed…

@mattfrendewey shares how the closure of a failed micro school in West Virginia demonstrates the true power and importance of school choice in holding educators accountable and empowering parents to make the best decisions for their children's education.

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March 21, 2024

824: Rewrite Your Sales Story - Remove Resistance, Embrace Success, &…

Embrace your authentic leadership voice, harness the power of storytelling, and rewrite your sales mindset to scale your business while staying true to your values, as shared by Justin Janowski, founder of Faith 2 Influence, in this insightful conversation with …

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March 28, 2024

827: The TSA of the Internet - Why Online ID Requirements WON'T WORK

@CarlSzabo explores the unintended consequences of government overreach in the digital realm, emphasizing the importance of parental responsibility and targeted solutions in protecting children online while preserving privacy and free speech rights for all Americans.

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April 5, 2024

831: Why Culture Trumps Politics - How is Laughter is Sparking a Libe…

@mkibbe explores how the liberty movement can harness the power of culture, comedy, and storytelling to create a compelling vision for a freer future, celebrating recent victories and supporting the unsung heroes who are fighting for freedom on the front …

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April 12, 2024

834: AI Apocalypse? - Navigating the End of Work as We Know It

AI expert @JoeGulesserian returns to explore the potential consequences of AI on democracy, employment, and society, warning of a dystopian future marked by mass unemployment, corporate-government collusion, and the erosion of individual freedom, while offering strategies for adapting and resisting …

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April 22, 2024

838: The Ozempic Era - Treating Symptoms vs. Addressing the Root Cause

Michael Pickens returns to share his insights on reprogramming your subconscious mind for success by setting clear goals, breaking them down into actionable steps, and using powerful tools like affirmations and visual reminders to stay focused and motivated on your …

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April 26, 2024

840: "Be Curious, Not Judgmental!" - Ted Lasso & Mastering the Art of…

Rewire your brain for sales success by mastering the internal art of influence, living your values, and embracing curiosity to uncover your prospects' true needs and have your best year ever.

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May 3, 2024

843: The Dropout Millionaire - How Can Mentors Help You Uncover Billi…

Self-made multimillionaire @Thedropoutmm shares his inspiring journey and the invaluable lessons he learned while building a business empire without a college degree or startup capital, emphasizing the crucial role of perseverance, mentorship, and coachability in achieving entrepreneurial success against all …

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May 8, 2024

845: Ideology vs. Identity - Separating Beliefs from the Self

In this thought-provoking episode, Brian Nichols and host Randy Wilinski explore the art of engaging in productive, nuanced conversations amidst a polarized political landscape, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, good-faith discussions, and focusing on root causes to foster personal growth …

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May 17, 2024

849: Debunking the Myths About Homeschooling

@Homeschool_LLC shares how homeschooling empowers parents to provide a personalized, efficient, and creativity-fostering education that prepares children for an ever-changing future while strengthening family bonds.

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May 29, 2024

854: Why is the New Zealand Government Destroying Beehives?

Beekeeper Steven Brown reveals the shocking extent of government overreach in New Zealand, detailing how authorities destroyed $2 million worth of his beekeeping equipment and products, and then billed him for the destruction, highlighting the dire consequences of unchecked bureaucratic …

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June 7, 2024

858: The BIGGEST Mistake Libertarians Make in Politics

Brian Nichols explains why libertarians need to shift their focus from preaching to the choir to effectively selling their ideas to a broader audience by understanding and addressing the kitchen table issues that matter most to voters, rather than getting …

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June 10, 2024

859: Debunking MYTHS About School Choice and Funding

Halli Faulkner from @yes_everykid_f explores the transformative potential of school choice, discussing how empowering parents and breaking down traditional barriers to educational options can revolutionize the future of education in America.

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June 12, 2024

860: Why Your Paycheck is SMALLER Than it Should Be - The Tax Secret …

Tax expert @scottahodge reveals the shocking ways taxes secretly control our lives, driving up costs and stifling economic growth, and offers a compelling vision for a simpler, fairer tax system that could unleash prosperity and freedom for all.

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June 17, 2024

862: What Happens to Taxes if Trump or Biden Wins in 2024?

Steve Hayes explores the stark contrasts between Trump and Biden's tax plans, painting a vivid picture of America's economic future and the potential for a fairer, simpler tax system under the FairTax plan.

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June 24, 2024

865: How Progressive Policies Hurt the Poor

@BenjaminAyanian explains how progressive economic policies often harm society's most vulnerable by misdiagnosing problems and creating detrimental unintended consequences.

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June 26, 2024

866: Why Are Public Schools Getting More Money But Worse Results?

Explore why increased education funding isn't improving student outcomes, challenging listeners to reconsider how we structure and fund our schools to truly benefit teachers and students. Copy Retr

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June 28, 2024

867: Biden's Debate DISASTER | Will Bad Debate Cost Democrats the Ele…

The recent Trump-Biden debate exposed Biden's apparent cognitive decline and reinvigorated Trump's campaign, potentially reshaping the entire 2024 election landscape and throwing the Democratic Party into chaos.

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July 3, 2024

869: Border Crisis Explained | What Libertarians Get Wrong

Libertarians must confront the real-world complexities of the border crisis, abandoning mockery for empathy and offering practical solutions that balance principles with reality, or risk irrelevance in crucial policy debates.

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July 9, 2024

871: The Brain Science Behind Great Storytelling EXPLAINED

Expert storyteller Andrea Sampson reveals how to use emotional language, sensory details, and a five-step framework to craft compelling narratives that make complex ideas stick, build trust, and inspire positive change in business, media, and everyday life.

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July 12, 2024

873: Why Do People Trust Experts Without Thinking?

Brian explores the unsettling shift he's observed in many of his friends who have gone from questioning authority to blindly following government mandates and expert narratives, urging listeners to maintain critical thinking and value individual liberty in an increasingly compliant …

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July 26, 2024

879: How Politics is Changing for Young People | Week in Review

Millennials are reshaping American politics as they face unique economic challenges and demand fresh voices in leadership, while also grappling with unexpected issues like drug-affected marine life, highlighting the urgent need for younger generations to get involved and make their …

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Aug. 12, 2024

886: Is Your Money Safe? | 3 Money Moves to Make Before the Economy C…

Financial expert Joe Lombardi warns of economic disaster under a potential Harris presidency and reveals unconventional strategies to protect your wealth, regardless of who wins the 2025 election.

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Aug. 14, 2024

887: What Makes Things Cost What They Do? | EXPLAINED

Using a banana farmer's dilemma as a relatable example, this episode unravels the complex interplay of supply, demand, and pricing in a free market economy, revealing how these forces shape every business decision and consumer purchase in our daily lives.

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Aug. 20, 2024

889: Brain Glue | How to Make Ideas STICK

Glue your ideas to their brains: the sticky science of unforgettable communication.

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Sept. 2, 2024

895: Why Africa Needs Fossil Fuels to Fight Poverty | Climate Activis…

A Kenyan farmer challenges Western climate policies, arguing that fossil fuels are essential for Africa's development and poverty reduction, not a threat to be eliminated.

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Sept. 7, 2024

897: Why Pennsylvania Decides the 2024 Election | Week in Review

@BNicholsLiberty and @HeyRemso challenge conventional political wisdom, exposing the dire consequences of unchecked immigration, the critical role of Pennsylvania in the 2024 election, and the potential fallout of third-party voting, ultimately questioning whether America is on the brink of losing …

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Sept. 18, 2024

901: How to Save Money on Healthcare | SECRETS Hospitals Hide

@PeterGillooly from @twc_health shows how our healthcare system's perverse incentives are costing you money and potentially your health, and teaches how taking control through early intervention and medical autonomy could be your lifesaver in a world where hospitals and insurance …

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Sept. 20, 2024

902: How to Talk Politics Without Sounding Like a Nerd

Libertarians must shift from selling features to solving problems, ditching the "autistic approach" for emotional connections, to effectively communicate their ideas and win hearts and minds.

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Oct. 5, 2024

908: How to Make Money in Countries You've Never Heard Of | Expat Mon…

Rethink your approach to wealth and freedom by exploring unconventional strategies like offshore investing and international diversification, as traditional political activism and US-centric investing may no longer be enough to secure your financial future in an increasingly uncertain global economy.

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Oct. 18, 2024

913: Alcoholism Recovery & Dealing with PTSD | New Approaches for Vet…

A Marine veteran's raw journey from trauma to transformation reveals how questioning everything, embracing vulnerability, and exploring unconventional healing methods can lead to profound personal growth and self-discovery.

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Oct. 25, 2024

915: Why Government Wants to Control Social Media | THE HIDDEN TRUTH

As governments worldwide move to ban social media platforms and criminalize online speech - from Brazil's complete ban of X to UK police monitoring citizens' posts - this episode reveals how quickly digital freedom can vanish overnight and why America …

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Oct. 26, 2024

916: Why Libertarians Are Switching to Trump in 2024 | Week in Review

Popular libertarian voice Dave Smith's endorsement of Trump signals a larger shift in the liberty movement, as key figures like Rand Paul, Ron Paul, and Thomas Massie coalesce around Trump's campaign - highlighting how pragmatic libertarians are choosing strategic influence …

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Nov. 3, 2024

918: Ron Paul and Elon Musk Team Up With Trump? | Week in Review

In a shocking pre-election bombshell, as Ron Paul and Elon Musk join forces in a potential Trump administration, New York state's killing of a beloved Instagram-famous squirrel becomes a rallying cry against government overreach, revealing how bureaucrats will dispatch more …

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Nov. 21, 2024

923: How COVID Changed American Politics Forever | The Real Story Beh…

The COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent government overreach shattered public trust in institutions, leading to a massive political realignment as Americans across the spectrum rejected establishment narratives and embraced new coalitions focused on personal freedom and government accountability.

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Dec. 5, 2024

926: Dear Santa: All I Want for Christmas is Freedom

Host Brian Nichols crafts a heartfelt Christmas list to "Liberty Santa," asking for practical freedom-oriented gifts like fiscal responsibility, school choice, and honest journalism while teaching listeners how to effectively communicate liberty principles during the holiday season.

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Dec. 7, 2024

927: Bitcoin Hits $100,000 | What This Means For Your Money in 2024

Bitcoin's historic rise to $100,000 represents more than just a price milestone - it signals a growing movement toward financial independence as people seek alternatives to government-controlled money in an era of inflation and increasing centralized control.

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Dec. 19, 2024

930: How to Heal Your Body NATURALLY (Step-by-Step Guide)

A former Wall Street insider exposes the truth about our broken health system while sharing how natural solutions and proper supplementation can transform your health, challenging everything we've been told about "genetic" health problems.

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Dec. 24, 2024

932: Weight Loss SECRETS (Without Surgery or Pills!)

A former college football player shares his remarkable journey from 470 pounds to vibrant health through the power of walking, intermittent fasting, and proper supplementation, proving that sustainable weight loss starts with simply taking the first step.

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Dec. 27, 2024

933: What They SHOULD Have Taught You in School (But Didn't)

Our education system prioritizes theoretical knowledge over essential life skills, creating generations of graduates who can solve complex equations but struggle with basic adult responsibilities.

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Jan. 20, 2025

937: How to HEAL Your Body (Without Prescription Drugs!)

A groundbreaking conversation revealing how a Colombia-based healing center is combining cutting-edge natural treatments with ancient wisdom to help patients heal from serious illnesses while exposing the corruption in American healthcare.

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