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Nov. 15, 2023

785: Inside Real-Life Rescue Missions - How Project Dynamo Saves Lives When No One Else Can

@Project_Dynamo1's Bryan Stern on his organization's daring missions to rescue stranded Americans abroad when no one else can help them.

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What happens when Americans are stranded overseas in danger with nowhere to turn? Meet the daring veterans behind Project Dynamo, a group risking it all on secret missions to save lives.

 

On today's episode, host Brian Nichols welcomes back Project Dynamo CEO Bryan Stern for an eye-opening look at this unique nonprofit. When disaster strikes abroad and citizens have no government help, Stern's team jumps into action. They've now evacuated over 7,000 people from war/disaster zones worldwide.

Stern takes us inside October's mission to Israel during active rocket attacks. Dealing with canceled flights and closed borders, the challenges were immense. The team persevered despite taking enemy fire themselves, demonstrating their commitment to saving lives. Their work shows what everyday heroes are capable of.

The conversation covers everything from coordinating with the Taliban to the dangers of cheering on Hamas without understanding reality. Stern stresses the need for truth and empathy amid polarization. His field insights add valuable nuance on complex global issues.

Throughout the discussion, Nichols and Stern focus on real solutions over empty rhetoric. They offer encouragement that good people united by purpose can change the world. By supporting Project Dynamo, listeners have the chance to be part of the mission.

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Transcript

Bryan Stern  
If you if you want to talk about domestic stuff, just let me know. I'm all cool. Protesting in the rest.

Unknown Speaker  
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all right, here we go

Brian Nichols  
if you're an American citizen trapped overseas after October 7, the world's on fire where can you turn for help if the American government isn't returning your please? Well, that's where the good team at Project Dynamo steps in. So naturally, we got talking about that instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well,

hey there, folks, Brian, on The Brian Nichols Show. Han. Thank you for joining us on of course, another fun episode. I am as always your humble host. Joining you live from our cardio miracle Studios here in lovely Eastern Indiana. revolutionize your heart health, with cardio miracle, this natural supplement boost nitric oxide for healthier circulation and blood pressure meaning increased energy, better sleep, enhance blood flow and yes better sexual health for you gentlemen out there. So feel the cardio miracle difference today. Visit cardio miracle.com use code TB and S for 15% off your order. And yes, I've been using cardio miracle now for about four plus months. And the cardio miracle difference is in fact real. So go ahead and join the 10s of 1000s of other folks who are in fact experiencing the cardio miracle difference for themselves, I guarantee you will not be disappointed. And if for whatever reason you are no worries, there's 100% money back guarantee. So you quite literally have nothing to lose except for that high blood pressure, sleepless nights and gentlemen, you the Boo yeah, so none of that. So if you want to go ahead and be part of the cardio miracle team, cardio miracle.com, co, T B and S for 15% off your order. All right now moving into today's conversation, we're talking all things rescue when you are stranded, and your government is not there to offer any assistance. Who do you call out to? And let's make it real October? Yeah, October 7, and two today, if you were over in Israel, and you were an American citizen, who could you call? Well go ahead and give a call to Brian stern and the amazing team over at Project Dynamo. Brian's returning to the show to talk about that and more. Brian, welcome back to The Brian Nichols Show.

Bryan Stern  
Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.

Brian Nichols  
I'm looking forward to this conversation, Brian, first. I mean, just I got elephant in the room. Right. Thank you all the work you and your team have been doing. And you know, we're recording here, right around Veterans Day. So it means I think it fits even perfect into what we're talking about, but also the work that you guys are doing. So I think for everyone listening today. Yes, a big thank you to the all the work you and your team are doing. And let's go into that right for the folks who missed your first appearance here in The Brian Nichols Show, Bri who are yet what's the work that project Dynamo is doing. And then let's laser focus in terms of how you guys are bringing that over to what's taking place over in the Middle East today.

Bryan Stern  
Sure. So my name is Brian Stern. I'm the CEO and founder of Project Dynamo Project dynamo.org is our website. We are a veteran led donor funded international rescue organization. Basically the best way to think about us as we work with the US government is not for whatever the reasons are, we're not political at all. We get no, no help from the government or anything like that. But if you're an American and you're stuck in our allies to we don't just do Americans we do we do friends and allies also. But if you're if you're in a place like Afghanistan, or Ukraine or Russian occupied Ukraine, or Sudan, or hurricane Ian or the fires in Maui, or Israel and Gaza, and coming soon to a theater near you, China and Taiwan, you call us and we'll we'll figure out a way to get you out. We've We've rested, we've conducted successfully over 602 rescue missions, soon to be 605. We have a few in the hopper that are about to be executed. That turns into just under 7000 people that we've rescued, we're a little bit different than than other so called rescue organizations, and so far as we actually go forward and do the operations ourselves. I just got back I'm on my way back over here in here in Israel. We were taking missile fire and the whole bit, October 7 happened. And like I like many of these conflicts. This is our seventh full scale deploy I met in 25 months, which is wild conference, something happened. We saw it on TV, packed our stuff, put a crew on the street, led by me, I go for I lead most of the missions myself with a with a crew of a, you know, emotionally complicated individuals. And we go and, and do the hard work ourselves, we have a team of volunteers in the rear, they do all of our, our case management, they're the real backbone of Dynamo. So think of them like dispatch, and we're like the fire department is the best way to think about it. And, and we did, we've done over 300 Americans so far. And our demand signal is increasing, and we're entirely donor funded. So if your listeners are looking to do something, that's what we say, Dynamo Don't be a spectator. If you're looking to do something, go to the website, if you need help, click the evacuation button, we'll help. If you want to help click the donate button, and you can help us out in a very big way. It's all

Brian Nichols  
great stuff, Bri and let's dig into it. I know you preface that with saying we're not political. We don't get into the world of politics. And yet, honestly, unfortunately, it just it's the reality of the world we're in right now. Your name was kind of brought into the world of politics, not by anything you guys did. But one of the running names there on the GOP side, Ron DeSantis, who is also sitting governor of Florida, reached out and I think brought quite a bit of funds to help with the case that you guys were going over to Israel to help remove folks there who are American citizens, and I think I was reading an article we were like, Yeah, we're gonna do that anyways. Right. What we were we were planning on doing our mission with or without the financial assistance of the state of Florida. That certainly helps. But I mean, definitely, I think from a PR standpoint, it does help bring the name of project Dynamo more to your average person, I think opens the eyes that this is actually a an avenue we can take without full fledged boots on the ground from an American military standpoint, in the very least opens up ways that we can get people out of harm's way without having to go full fledge, you know, Warzone kind of mentality.

Bryan Stern  
Yeah, I mean, in order for Dynamo to work, we need three things we call, we call it the triad, we need three things do exist, one, we need a person, we need someone in trouble, right? We call that, you know, you know, that's like the requirement, right? We need someone or a group of people that are in trouble somewhere that where no one is helping them, right. Number two is I need a team, I need a team of people that can actually do the work and we can't do everything. I wish we could. But we can't. There are limitations to what we can do contrary to common opinion, having broken people out of jail from Russia. We've done a lot of really hard things, but there are some things that we just can't do. And then the third thing is funding. And for us, it's an operational requirement. These airplanes don't fly themselves. Sources don't recruit themselves. buses don't gas themselves and all that stuff. So when when October 7 happened, we launched, we launched and I had hundreds of people reaching out to us and started doing what we do. prior prior to Governor DeSantis. His help. We had conducted 505 197 or 98 operations, without any help from anybody, purely grassroots donors. So 1000s of 1000s of 1000s of 1000s of people. What happened is, is he he saw and I don't know, I've never really had a conversation with them. But I suspect that he saw a big gap. The federal government wasn't doing what they needed to do or should have done or they weren't doing it fast enough. And he he wanted to do something. He's a Navy vet, he's a combat vet, it's Veterans Day. And, you know, we're not political. And I don't think that his support was inherently politically focused, you know, forgetting that he's running for president and governor and all that good stuff. Bottom line is he's still a good American. And he wanted to do something but he I think that he wanted to partner with somebody that that he could have confidence in writing enough. Well, somebody that had done this before, so we got connected through some some of his guys need some our friends and like that, and it was very much you know, we have funding, you need funding, you have people, you know, we want we want to rescue people, you do rescue people. So it's very, very symbiotic in that regard. And from the Dynamo perspective, I could care less where the funding comes from, right? It really doesn't matter if it comes from the Girl Scouts of America, the ASPCA, the state of Florida, the B'nai Brith, the United fraternal brotherhood of the United association of spoon makers doesn't really matter. It it really is irrelevant to us. And to the extent that we've had people that have literally just this is not the first time we've had someone pay for a plane for us before we've had don't bury aviation in December 2021. Great, great, great company, great company. Very aviation came out of the woodwork we were we had a ton of Americans when I was done In Afghanistan with our, with our people, and we were struggling for funding, they came in from the high ropes and they were frankly a little skeptical, honestly, which is fair because what we do sounds a little crazy sometimes. And their their perspective was, well how do I know if I give you money that it will go to the airplane and my response was, don't give me the money. And the CEO and the CFO who are really good guys. Were kind of taken aback by that and I said, Look, I'll just connect you with my airplane broker. We've got the plane lined up we've got the landing clearance and the Taliban everything's good don't give me the money give it straight to them. In fact, if you can negotiate a better charter God bless you no problem we don't we don't you know, I don't get a commission based off how many people we rescue I could care less I just need someone to pay for the damn thing. So we've seen this before and that was very much very much the circumstance work with the state of Florida and Governor DeSantis says guys our people was you know I don't care who charges the plane i As long as it shows up and you can get there and I can get there and get the people on the bird. But I don't I don't take credit don't take credit. I don't care I'm not running for office. None of those issues are relevant to me I don't really care frankly you I care about the safety. The safety in the in the safe evacuation and rescue of American citizens stuck in a war zone. Right everything after that. I could care less Call it what you want do with it. What you want doesn't really matter to me. Let's

Brian Nichols  
let's go back to something there. You you brought up Brian and that is in by the way, just for context. The last time you were on the show, I think it was immediately thereafter. Around the time of the the Maui wildfires in Hawaii. Right. So natural disaster in on American territory. Now we're talking about Warzone over in Israel Middle East Gaza Strip, you know that that entire general area, very, very different dynamics, you mentioned, having to reach out to the Taliban and get which just sounds crazy that you're having these conversations, but you have to write having conversations with the Taliban to Get air clearance. So you can land the plane. What what does that look like? Like what what are the logistics behind the scenes that we were not seeing? We're not privy to but that goes in behind trying to do something like what you've been doing over in an actual war zone, which I mean, yeah, obviously, it's a lot of work going into an area with natural disasters, but I'm sure the different intricacies that go into planning for an act of war zone, I'm sure it's just, you know, miles and miles of pages long, it seems Sure.

Bryan Stern  
The I mean, each one of these things, you know, the way we do things in Afghanistan is different than the way things we do things the way we do things in Russian occupied Ukraine, which is different than the way we did things in Sudan, which is different than the way things we did the way we did things in Maui, and so on so forth. Each one of these things are they're kind of like, like children, right? Yeah, you have four kids, you have four babies, you know, one's gonna grow up to be a brain surgeon, one's gonna grow up to play for the New York Mets one's going to hopefully go you know, go you know, become a, you know, become a brain surgeon or a dentist or a lawyer or something, and one's gonna grow up to be Hannibal Lecter. You know, how do you know when you're looking at for babies that are still wearing diapers? How do you know that you don't. And the way you approach each of these problems is very much like that. The way the way Afghanistan works still, to this day, there's funding, which is also an active war zone, people get killed in Afghanistan every single day, when we go, it's incredibly scary. You know, make no mistake that that that conflict is alive and well. Same in Ukraine, as an example, in Afghanistan, you can land airplanes, in Ukraine, you cannot if it flies, it dies in Ukraine. So everything in Ukraine is done by land. But in Ukraine, all the borders are open. In Afghanistan, all the borders are closed. So without doing any hard math to very large scale conflicts, the way we have to appeal that banana is very different. But they all have something in common. Number one, they all have Americans that are stuck. For the Dynamo perspective, that's the common thread. And the second part is, is that there's Americans in trouble and no one is coming. So if the government shows up, we get out of the way. I'm not I'm not trying to augment or even compete with the with the government, we pay a trillion dollars a year national in taxes for national security. My entire operating budget is like a rounding error for lug nut grease in the Pentagon parking lot. You know what I mean? So so we exist where they're not going to be either because they left or if they're not coming, or if they haven't gotten there yet. Yeah. And that's kind of what happened with Israel as we started doing, you know, Americans, we're stuck. We're taking missile fire. The whole country is under attack. It's very, very scary. It's very unknown. We're in the what 33rd 34th day of this conflict. It's brand new. No one knows what tomorrow will be. So Americans got scared. They couldn't land the plane started canceling flights and stuff. And that's not the Eric, that's not the air airlines fault. It's the insurance. You can't get insurance on $100 million airplane in a war zone. The first thing that happens is all the insurance carriers dumped the the, the airlines, so they can't land. People are stuck. Where do you go? Right? And no one knows what this conflict will be. So some people are like, Oh, well go to Jordan. Well, if you're a Jewish American Jordan may not be even if it is okay. You may not be comfortable with that. Frankly, you know, this thing happened on the anniversary, the Six Day War where all the surrounding Arab countries attacked Israel 50 years prior. So, you know, Jordan is a wonderful country, and King Abdullah is a wonderful man. And, you know, there's certainly an ally of the United States. But if you're an Orthodox Jewish kid from New York, and you have, you know, you're you, you're a practicing Jewish guy, and, and your country and your people just got attacked, where babies were beheaded, and women are being raped in the streets. I don't know that you want to go to Jordan, I don't know that you want to or we'll go to Jordan so fast. So the best way to come out is by air by far. Well, how do you land an airplane when the airport when the airspace might be contested? Maybe yes, maybe no, possibly. Turns out it stayed open. But there was a real risk of it being closed. If Iran started lobbing missiles and Lebanon started doing things and Syria started doing things, the airspace would have to close. Now, what do you do? Well, then the answer is by boat. So good news, we have boats also. So thinking through all these different problem sets, your average person doesn't know how to do this. They just don't. It's complicated stuff. It's not tourism. We're not an Uber service. If you can take an Uber from wherever you are to safety. You don't call us you call Uber. That's a different thing. So you know, we saw a lot of this in Ukraine with a lot of so called rescue organizations that would say, get to Lviv in the West. And then we'll get you to Poland. And they would do that there's a particular organization out there and they claim to rescue 25,000 people Well, the reality is is in Lviv, the Victoria's Secret store is still open. The to me stores open, the Louis Vuitton store is open, it's incredibly safe. If you can get the Levine you can get the Texas, that's not exactly a rescue when I'm in LA Aviv, I take an Uber to the border is literally how I get there. So in the world of rescues, that's not us, we go on the frontlines. We go nose to nose where it's really, really, really bad. And where things are terrible. And we don't we don't you know, we're, you know, we're if this was the fire department, we don't rescue kitties at a trees, we go into blazing fires and pull people out. That's what we do. Just a little bit different.

Brian Nichols  
So, Brian, this is a question I had, and I'm sure other people have as well. You go to an active war zone. I mean, you mentioned you're getting shot at rockets going at you like what can you and your team do from a self defense standpoint? Are you allowed to engage in combat? Like, how does this all work?

Bryan Stern  
Well, we were in Israel, we were taking missile fire, basically, we hoped and prayed that the Iron Dome worked. We were actually on a call with someone speaking of Governor DeSantis, we're actually on a call with with, he had a whole group of people in a in a in a conference room at their emergency operations center. And we're getting ready to conduct an operation that they're funding and, and doing doing that part of it. And we're about to start and all the alarms start going off and all the loud noise all the alarms go off and the lights start blinking and you start hearing boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and my laptop, we're on a zoom call, and my laptop started to shake. And the head of the thing says, What the hell is that? And I said, Oh, it's Iron Dome, though Tel Aviv is getting attacked. And he says, really? And I go, yeah, that's, that's what that's why we're here. It's kind kinda, you know, I'm not sitting in Tallahassee there, brother. It sucks out here real bad. I'll call you guys back as soon as I can, and shut my laptop down, went down to a bomb shelter, then they gotta had Wi Fi. And we were talking about some of the intricacies of the operation at that very moment. I fired it up in from the bomb shelter like Alright guys, so anyway about this thing, and they're like, You seem incredibly calm, like Well, not much I can do about it. I can have all the guns I want. I can't shoot down missiles. I wish I could. But sadly, I'm pretty I can take care of myself, but I can't. You know, I do have limits also, you know, so. So it is dangerous. We've had a lot of close calls. The Russian set hitman to kill us a few times we got one of those or two of those on video. That's always the it always kind of makes us take a moment of pause and laughter of you know, those dummies they thought I was walking into their ambush they walked into my ambush. They're not the sharpest sometimes. But all these things are very dangerous. If it's, if it's safe, there's no need, you know? It's called a rescue for a reason. Right? It's it's inherently dangerous by the very nature of it. I got attacked by the State Department not that long ago, where they attacked me and they said, Project Dynamo. We don't like Project Dynamo because they take risk. And everyone, people reach out to me, can you believe what they said? And I was really confused. I mean, it's we're a warzone evacuation element, you know, our organization. There is risk. I mean, that's part of it. It's, it's like going to the beach and getting sand and your toes. It just it's it's one of those things, that there's no way to do true Warzone rescue operations and evacuations without risk. And, you know, my response was, maybe that's why they're not there. They don't want to assume as risk as much risk for Americans as we do. I don't know. But that's above my paygrade that's that's a that's a dumb thing. But I was so confused as to that attack. I didn't, it seems so silly to me, like, you know, how dare you assume risk in a warzone? Oh, that's that's what has to happen. So

Brian Nichols  
that's the whole point. That's that's to quote Obi Wan Kenobi. That's why I'm here. Right? That's, that's the whole point that you and project Dynamo are out there to do is where the government in this case, US government drops the ball and what you know, the questions and obviously pop up, why are they dropping the ball in such frequent numbers too. And then of course, you put on the conspiracy hat. But that's a conversation for a different podcast on a different day, Brian, we are unfortunately getting hard pressed for time, which means we're going towards the tail end of the episode where we do our little segment called Final thoughts. So what I'll do is I'll kick things off, and I'll turn things over to you to wrap things up. But this goes into kind of what I was I was talking about last time you were on the show, we at The Brian Nichols Show, we hate the idea of just pointing up problem and screaming problem, we say we need to have solution, right? How do we solve the problems that we see out there without just being rhetoric without just being you know, just empty, pissing and moaning, let's actually have some substance behind our, our critiques, and in this case, offer viable solutions. And Brian, what you're doing over at Project dynamo, is exactly what we need in this this world as real solutions to the problems we see and what you're doing, I think speaks to even more how important it is, but also how Yes, there are very real risks, very real consequences that go along with doing the right thing. If this was easy, everybody would be doing it, or frankly, nobody would have to be doing it because it would already be being taken care of. And yet to the point you you articulated so very well earlier, that nobody was doing it. Nobody is taking the step to do the hard stuff, right? When the proverbial hits the fan, what are we going to do are we going to do the hard difficult but necessary course of action or the easy, maybe a little bit easier to explain away course of action, which ends up being no course of action. And when no course of action happens as a sales guy, I cringe because that means status quo. And status quo, it means I lost, right? I didn't make the sale. So I think it's important for us to not just talk about these these problems and articulate how these problems came to be, but then offer very real tangible solutions, much like you and the team over at Project Dynamo had been bringing forward. Brian, that's my final thoughts for today. What do you have for us?

Bryan Stern  
I think that's I think everything that you just said, Brian is accurate. You know, I, I'm, it's Veterans Day, and as a veteran, have spent a lot of time in war, a lot of time in war. And, you know, we take an oath, and that oath doesn't have an expiration, and I watch TV and I'm watching on my other TV over here, you know, protests in London and, and what's going on in America with those students cheering for Hamas and I, I often weep, right? And I scratch my head all the time, and I am you know, how did we get here? And what's wrong with us? And you know, we are the greatest nation in the world and I but I find myself even for a moment debating that point. And I never thought in my lifetime that I would. And the reality is is the oath that we all take as veterans is to the people to the Constitution. It's not the politics all these politicians are terrible every single one I don't care what party I don't care if the this one or that one could care less I have yet to meet a truly focused, you know, you know, non political politician doesn't exist, and it's not their fault. That's just part of it. Right? So I don't hold them in contempt or anything. But then I look at things like dynamo and I'm encouraged. And I'm encouraged because we have a dynamo. I've got black, white, purple. I've got I've got men, women. I've got old young I've got fat skinny, I've got hairy bald. I've got veteran non veteran, I've got combat veteran, non combat veteran I've got gay straight, I got people who don't know if they're gay or straight. But we're all united in purpose. And every time I go on TV, as you know, I do a lot of media every single time, every time. Not only do we have good Americans who are donating, trying to help us, which I really appreciate, not for me, but for the people that we're trying to rescue. And I that gives me hope that people actually care. But more importantly, what we get as we get, I get resumes of people every single day, saying, How can I help? This is my background, I got an email today from a dentist. I don't know what we do with a dentist exactly when I'll figure something out. But it gives me hope and reminds me that as Americans were allowed, we were a country founded in conflict, the Boston Tea Party by today's standards will be a terrorist event, right? And that's okay that we fight that's okay, that we're different. That's okay, that you can believe what you want to believe. And I can stand on the street corner screaming at you, explaining what my position on a particular issue. And you could be screaming back at me telling me that I'm nuts, and this is why you think I'm nuts. Where we've gotten a little bit lost, is people don't actually know what they're talking about. Yep. And we have a lot of people's, you know, 66% of Americans don't have a passport, two thirds, two thirds of Americans cannot understand the world outside of their iPhones, if they want it to. Yet 90% of Americans are more are completely convinced they understand the world. So, you know, without doing any hard math, we have some big challenges. And that's how you get to things where you see, you know, people in front of the Stern School of Business at NYU, cheering pro Hamas things, a 10 minute walk from the ground 09 11 Memorial, and they are completely convinced that they know what they're talking about. I was at a session not that long ago, when I went and spoke to some of these kids and I invited them. I there was a bunch of female a bunch of young female students who are cheering yay, Hamas. And I invited them I said, Look, I'm I'm gonna go back to the back to the border, I'll bring you to Gaza. And they said, really? And I said, Yeah, you guys want to go? And they said, Yeah, and I go, I go, I'm so surprised. They said no, the the humanity I go, Look, you know, you're you guys are Americans. Right? And they go Yeah, yeah, I go. I've never met a woman that enjoys being raped before. And they said, What I go, What do you think they do to you? You're a 23 year old, attractive college American citizen, female. You think they're gonna bring you tea and hookah? They're gonna pass you around like a cigarette. And they were like, I don't. So I'm surprised. Thank you for coming out. I need volunteers. When do you want to go? And they were like, Oh, me, Oh, my. And I go, Well, that's what you're protesting. So I'm very confused as to how you're cheering for this stuff. I'm so confused by it helped me understand. And without doing any hard math and a very, very, very quick conversation. You could see this eureka moment of Yeah, maybe. Maybe I actually don't know what I'm talking about. And that's what I think we need. I think we need a lot of truth. I don't think we need a lot of yelling and screaming. I think discussion. There's a lot of sides to all these issues and a discussion that's empirical, where people can actually have a conversation. That's what the First Amendment's all about. That's what Veterans Day is all about. That's why we fought that's my friend's fight. That's what we died for, fought for. And that's really what I think we've kind of gotten away from and, and so that's kind of what I think in the world is the the America is the best country in the world. You go anywhere. I've been to 68 countries, nowhere is as good as us. No, and we may not be beautiful. We may not be perfect. But we're the best thing out there. And everyone else pretty much sucks. Yes, competing for second place. So that's my final thoughts, you know. And please don't go to dynamo.org. Yeah,

Brian Nichols  
no, no, for sure. I say we're including all the links for donations and stuff in the show notes for sure. But just to put a nice little cherry on top of that, a delicious ice cream sundae you just built for us. You know, here, here's a real life example. And I'm sorry to my brother in law, but my brother in law like that this is him to a tee he absorbs everything that is quote unquote, real life to him through the context of a computer screen, right. And that's, that's fine. But you at least have to acknowledge that what you're getting is absolutely 1,000% filtered through the respective lens that you want it to be filtered through. And this is true, by the way, for anybody who's in our audience, like go outside of the audience for a couple of episodes, listen to other podcasts that are overtly not onboard with our politics. That's a good thing. I want you to hear different perspectives and different different ways of, I guess, really digesting these very controversial topics. But I challenge you as members of my audience and where I challenge myself as the host of this show, is to not just give you what you want to hear, I want to give you what you need to hear. I will have folks on from all walks of life from many different ways of thinking And are they always 1,000%? On board with, you know, as a show here, we tend to be with that small L. libertarian philosophy. Not always no, we have folks who are conservative, we have folks who are moderate, we have folks who are more left leaning off all different folks from different ways of life. And we have conversations that are sometimes difficult to have. Because believe it or not, you're going to have situations in life where outside of your Echo Chamber outside of your bubble, you're going to have to engage with people who don't think like you do. And part of sales is being able to first and foremost uncover people who might be open to different ideas, ways of thinking, different ideas that you bring to the table. But then how do we sell these ideas, and people won't just start listening to you because you're right, they listened to you because you know how to articulate your message, you know, how to present what your solution is, and how it solves the very real problems that we are absolutely identifying. So yes, I can't agree more Brian, and the work that you and the amazing team over at Project Dynamo you guys are doing I can't thank you enough because this is another great example to throw up there on the shelf of hey, when we have problems that are out there, there are absolutely organizations who are willing to meet the need and to bring not just their their services to the table, but actually ultimately making things better. So kudos to you and the amazing team they're a project dynamo, Brian and and folks if you want to go ahead and support the work that project Dynamo is doing I will include all those links in the show notes any I guess final words of wisdom for the the audience today, bro, as we wrap things up,

Bryan Stern  
just thank a veteran, you know if you can read it, right, you know, if you can, if you can, what's that saying? If you can, if you can read and if you can read and write thank you, Teacher, if you have a teacher, thank you veteran or something I always screw that up. But but whatever that is, you know, just uh, you know, veteran, the veteran community is struggling. They need they need our support to and, and the country is is is not the dumpster fire. That that that a lot of people think that it is. It's just not we have problems. Okay. But it, we are an amazing place. And our country is predicated on the people, not the politics doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

Brian Nichols  
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Bryan Stern

Founder and CEO of Project DYNAMO

FOUNDER & CEO
(U.S. ARMY & NAVY)
Bryan Stern leads Project DYNAMO. He is a multiple-tour combat veteran of the United States Army and Navy. He has over 25 years of military experience focused on special operations specializing in Hostage Rescue, Counter-Terrorism, Counter- Proliferation, Critical Technology Protection, and Unconventional Warfare. Bryan has supported, deployed, and operated operations in over 60 countries. His awards and decorations include the Purple Heart medal and has been recognized by the United States Secretary of Defense, Secretary of the Army, Chief of US Army Infantry, and the Director, Defense Intelligence Agency. Bryan was also a military first responder during the attacks on 9/11 in New York City. He is a specialist in near-peer threats, hard-targets, and denied-area/contested-area operations. Bryan has served with the most elite units and agencies within the US Special Operations and Intelligence Communities.