772: The Creativity CRISIS - Chad Stewart on Igniting Creativity & Preparing the Leaders of Tomorrow

Brian Nichols  
The creativity crisis, our schools killing, creativity and kids. Yeah, let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, hey there, folks, Brian Nichols, here on The Brian Nichols Show for joining us on of course, another fun filled episode. I am as always your humble host, Tony, you live from our cardio miracle studios want to improve your heart health with a delicious, nutritious supplement drink. Go ahead, stick around. I'll talk about that later. But first, yes. In the school districts out there across America across the world, killing the creativity in our kids to discuss that and more joining us today. Chad Stewart welcome The Brian Nichols

Chad Stewart  
Show. Great to be on. Thank you, Brian.

Brian Nichols  
Chad, great to have you on the show. Thank you for joining us. And before we dig into Yes, elephant in the room, kids, constantly I see him walking around chatter like this all day long in phones for the audio listener not paying attention there. It seems like a lot of kids today. They're just stuck in in a rut. Whether it's because they're online, or maybe it's something else. It's because we've been teaching them the wrong way. Want to dig into that and more. But first, Chad, do us a favor, introduce yourself here to The Brian Nichols Show audience and also, what's that behind your Brickfield? What's that?

Chad Stewart  
Yeah, so Chester, and I'm originally from Newport Beach, California was back east Wellesley, Massachusetts for 16 years. And I did my undergraduate work in British Literature and European history, which will explain my book series and then went on to postgraduate work. And then I was actually an investment banker. About 12 years ago, if you could imagine a very interesting world was at Bank of America then I was at Morgan Stanley Merrill Lynch. And it was about 12 years ago, when I had the idea for Brookfield loss crown, I had my moment my creativity, inspiration, it was funny because I was sent down to this boring seminar in Providence, Rhode Island on the weekend that I had to attend. I think it was insurance. And I started to drift and I started to do it all and I do it all the circle three lines a basket, a boy and a girl, I wrote the boy in the balloon and that moment, that idea just came to me and I just thought, Gosh, it'd be really fun to write this children's book series, you know, based starting in England present time, and it's about Tom 12 year old orphan and, and he's at this horrible orphanage, whether the orphanage has been an orphan his whole life has been at whether the for for six years, and this is the year he's going to escape. And that's how it all started out. And I went home and I just don't want piece of paper, I started to kind of plot out, you know, starts up in Yorkshire and then heads to Windsor. And then I'm sorry, heads to Oxford, Windsor, London. And then finally Canterbury, kind of covering all the key spots and England sat down took me four years, 2500 hours to produce book, one, Brookfield and the last crown and it's 384 pages. And when I was writing it, I wasn't thinking series. Nor was I thinking a 400 page book, but it just started to flow out of me and I'm just having so much fun writing and it reminded me of a great quote by Beverly clearly she she wrote the runaway Ralph, the mouse of the motorcycle, one of my childhood favorites. And she said if you ever walk into a library or a bookstore, and you don't find the book you're looking for, right. And so I think I took that, you know, verbatim and I started and I wrote it. And so we we launched it. So from concept and doodle to launching it it was 10 years we launched officially in August 2019. Since that has become a national bestseller it's actually in the top 1% of all books ever, ever published. And we're on our way in the next eight to 10 years outsell Harry Potter. It's one of the most awarded books and children's fiction. And it's part of a seven book series we launched Brookfield and the returned I'm sorry, the rise of the lion, Book Two in 2021. You can see that to my right. And we just launched Brookfield and return to the prints Book Three last September and so all the series takes place in different countries, it moves across the world. I'm working on book four right now Eastern Europe and Russia, but five will be Asia. And then book six will be South America book seven, we come back to United States and I think what's so engaging I think what's what's impacted not just the nation but worldwide with with Brookfield is, is that number one it takes takes place in present time. I think people are so tired of the saturation of this nonsensical fiction, you know, it's it's demigods. It's the witchcraft it's it's the superheroes, the cultism. It's the vampires and it's just nonsense. It's a complete and total disconnect from reality. And so suddenly you have grief and loss crowd takes place in present time. There is no magic. I mean it Everything is as authentic as it can be locations history, geography, art architecture. We hit you know, it's based on family friendship, loyalty and courage. And we hit the four C's throughout every single book creativity, critical thinking, communication and collaboration. So, so it's a seven book series I'm working on but for now, we're almost in pre production to the first of seven major motion pictures we think will break box office records, we can come back to that. And we launched Brookfield last crown theatrical play specifically for elementary middle schools. This January, nationwide and globally.

Brian Nichols  
Wow. Okay, so a lot to unpack there. First, going back to your drop the big name, which I'm sure lots of folks listening may have at least heard of it. If not read the books, watch the movie or something. Harry Potter, you said you're on your way to surpassing Harry Potter. That seems like that's a fool's errand Chad, but like you're actually on your way. I want to know what what's been the feedback that's led you to have this success? Has it been parents wanting their kids to read something that actually means something? Or is there something else?

Chad Stewart  
Yeah, it's interesting. You know, when I was writing this, this, these were all my ideas and intentions, right. But it just, it just came, was incorporated into the book and what we did in August 2019, when we launched the book, but one, we started an eight national national school tour. And so I drove 9000 Miles 23 states, and I presented with over 200 schools, more than 40,000 students, usually fourth through eighth huge auditoriums to 300 students. And it was just great. It was just so engaging. And I was there to talk a little bit about the book series. But I was really there about talking about the idea talking about creativity, that we're all born creative, even if you don't feel creative. And sometimes you might have a great idea, but it's just not the right timing. And sometimes it might take three 510 years, even 20 years to realize your dream or your idea, but just keep working at it every day. And I tell him about Brookfield, you know, 10 years from concept to finally launching it. Then I'm sitting here telling fourth, fifth graders, you know, 10 years of hard work of rejection of failure of frustration, of just staying focused until the right timing hit, and then we launched it in 2019. And so I think that really kicked it off. And I think what's great about the book, and what's engaging, not just the parents, but the students is that it's a fast paced adventure series takes place in present time. And I hear this we receive hundreds, if not 1000s, of letters and feedback, literally, not just across the nation, but globally. I mean, everything from Germany, to New Zealand, to Australia, to England, to Germany, to Japan, to Italy, a people that have read it, and our youngest readers, seven are oldest readers, 93 years old, half of our reading audience are young adults, or adults. And I think it's that they can relate to the story. It's a fast paced adventure story that can relate to the characters, because they don't have magical powers because they don't have superhero powers. And so children, you know, like, and I get the feedback from from young kids 11 or 12, you know, boys and girls, and it's just like they they can relate to Tom, they can relate to Sarah, they can relate to the situation's of the characters. They might not be chased by police officers, but it's constantly being, you know, stuck in a problem or trying to get somewhere and having to figure out how to get there and Thomas are kind of talking and communicating and collaborating and critical thinking, and sometimes they have the right answers. And they they get to the next stage. Sometimes they have the wrong answers, and they learn from it. But it's this type of authentic literature. That I think is really it is the new step it is we say that Brookfield is this generations book series, and people are just tired of the crap. They're tired of the nonsense. There's an 85% gap and the entire worldwide industry for sort of family oriented, edifying, good educational books, and Brookfield is leading that pack. And we say this to encourage anyone else out there. Don't duplicate what's out there because it's crap, right? Something good and clean and authentic. And don't feel that you need to compromise it with this heightened fantasy.

Brian Nichols  
It's fascinating. I want to go back to something you you raised up there that the kids are finding that they're attaching themselves more so to the characters, because they don't have the magic powers right now. You think like, you know, the kids watching Harry Potter or the kids watching Star Wars, the kids, whatever they're watching, right, where there's, there's that lore. And sometimes I think we get into the mentality of Well, that's what's captivating is the story. But it's actually you're, you're missing a piece because you can never be that character. Right? You can never be Luke Skywalker, because you don't have the force. You can never be Harry Potter because you don't have a magic wand and magic is not real. So like your I think you're touching on something, Chad, that we've kind of missed as a society is that there is beauty. And there is there's a lot to unpack in normal life. And we have to really focus on building these conversations and frankly, building these stories, not in some fantastical world, but in the world that we live in every single day because it's A world we live in every single day and the very real problems that we're facing that we have to deal with. And if kids think that I can deal with these problems, by simply saying, these problems don't matter here or a medical data problems be gone, it doesn't work that way now have to work together, you have to collaborate, I love the four C's that you just listed, because kids aren't taught that nowadays. And I want to maybe transition a smidge towards how schools are killing the creativity and kids and I look at the traditional education, if we can call it that, let's call it what it is the government indoctrination schooling system. And if we're going back to the Prussian model, and that is teaching kids how to be good little test takers, how to be good little factory drones versus to actually think to be creative to have problems sculpt solving skills that translate beyond the classroom, into the real world. I think there's a lot missing there, Chad, and you've been going around talking to quite literally 1000s of parents and students in the schools, and you're seeing it firsthand. So give us kind of your your, I guess, take being boots on the ground? What's happening in these schools? And what do we need to do to help save our kids and their creativity?

Chad Stewart  
Yeah, great question. And and yeah, it's sad. And I think that was part of our tour is it wasn't just to sort of, you know, launch the book and promote it. It was a grassroots effort. But I really wanted to just travel the United States, I wanted to come into schools, and just talk to teachers, talk to librarians talk to 1000s of students, I'd be sitting there sometimes for two hours, signing books, if you can imagine we were selling about 40%. So if there was like 200 students, we'd sell about 80 books, which is just in and of itself, unheard of, and asking them, you know, asking them what they thought about the presentation, what do they like to read? How often do they read, you know, you know, what, what do they what do they enjoy doing? What do they do want to do when they grow up, and it was just it was great to sort of have that sort of white paper research project behind it. But really, what we're dealing with is a system that was in place, you know, in the 19th century is based on the factory model, Sir Ken Robinson, Ted Talks, there's three of them talks really in depth about this, he does a great job about it. And they were never really in the whole focus of that school system was really to train people for the workforce and training for the factories. And that has never really changed. Now, I was very fortunate. I grew up in Corona del Mar, Southern California, Newport Beach, and I had a great elementary school, I had a wonderful sixth grade teacher, she was extremely creative, and we can kind of circle back to that. So I was very fortunate, but just decade after decade, it's a planned system, to really get kids, you know, into a narrow, narrow thinking, to follow not to not to not to be creative not to be leaders, I could share some stats and stuff that I think will really bring it home, but starts with this George land he he's a famous researcher and writer he was hired to to create a creativity test for NASA. Now, that's a whole nother story. But needless to say, the astronauts, you know, not only needed to be analytical and mathematical, but they needed to be creative, you know, so they could look at things from a different way and brainstorm and work themselves out of problems. So he created this creativity test was very successful. And then he put it into the school system. And he tracked it for 20 years. And he was and he was testing five year olds and five year olds were scoring 98%. So basically 98 out of 105 year olds were little geniuses, as pretty much every single child is their creative, their extraordinary. He tested them again at 10. And the score dropped down to 30%. He tested them again at 15. And the score had dropped down to 12%. So you had that from going from 98% to 10% and 10 years, based on the educational system, specifically the public system. And so schools were teaching creativity out of students. And, and it's interesting. So another one, Dr. Kim. She's a wonderful researcher and writer. She wrote a book that came out I think, about five seven years ago called called the creativity crisis. And she literally looked at scores over 20 years, hundreds of 1000s of scores of students and she found that since the 1990s, schools have killed curiosities and passions, narrow visions, lowered expectations, stifled risk taking, destroyed collaboration, narrowed minds, killed deep thoughts and imagination, forced conformity, solidified hierarchy, does that sound like exactly where we are? And it says as a result, children have become less emotionally expressive, less energetic, less humor, humorous, less imaginative, less talkative, and verbally, verbally expressive, less uncontroverted, uncontroversial, less lively, and passionate, less perceptive, and less likely to see things from a different angle. So this is all based on real research. Now, on the other side of that we're in a creativity crisis and have been for 30 years across the nation, it's getting worse, and especially in those 10 areas. It's like a 45 degree angle every year, it's just going down, whatever. But on the other side of that creativity is the number one most important skill set globally. Like if you're asked like, is it engineering? Is it mathematics? Is it AI? Is it technology? No, it's great. tivity creativity is the number one most desired skill. In fact, creative applicants are preferred five to one, if not 10, to one over other applicants, because creative through creativity, you can change, you can adjust, you can manage you think for yourself, you can even think outside the box, you can do 100 other things. In fact, if you have a musical background, and you play an instrument, read music, you're you're usually hired 10 to one because they know that people that have that background, are better managers better under crisis. better at solving problems and just better leaders. Isn't that interesting? Because that,

Brian Nichols  
too, but and I was in theater, and I was in football. I did all those fun, creative things. I did pretty darn good back in the day.

Chad Stewart  
Yeah, no, absolutely. And but on the other side of that, I think two things. One is I think we're in a educational reformation, much like Martin Luther 500 years ago. And the cats out of the box, you know, I mean, it's it's been it's happening, and which is exciting. And that's an exciting thing. And we're also in a in a homeschool revolution. In the last two and a half years, we've gone from 5 million to over 15 million homeschoolers. And I have seen in my research and boots on the ground, homeschool kids are the best, best well rounded, smartest, incredible students I've ever met. I mean, like a 12 or 13. I mean, they're, they're not, you know, fidgety and stuff. They're, they're very, they're very focused, they listen to you, they ask good questions, they're grounded. They're often two to three grades ahead. By 16, they're already taking college courses. And this is really across the board. Because with homeschooling, it's just the right environment. And you're not forced, your only qualification to be in the classroom is that you're 12. You know what I mean? And you're just and you're all taught the same, and it's just like, the entire system doesn't work. And it's done. And so it is, it's the last days of the of the public system. I know, there's this going on over here in this controversy over here. Yeah, it's gonna hang on just like the end days of Nazi Germany. It's like what I say it's gonna fight and kick and scream until the end. But as far as I'm considering it's the beginning of the end of the old old educational model. Remember, 1000 charter schools in California? What does that tell you? And that's, you know, it's just a different system in California. Yeah, and, of course, to try to shut that down and to try to limit homeschooling and stuff. But again, you know, good luck with that. So. So a lot, a lot is happening. You know, it's like, it's incredible. So a lot of parents, and I'll say this real quick, because, yeah, when I was coming back from my tour, it was in March 2020. And I was in Memphis, Tennessee, just at four schools back to back, when all this nonsense was happening, I thought, Oh, no. And I'm so excited to be in the heart of America. And I couldn't wait to get up to like Kentucky and Indiana where you live, you know, and get up to Ohio and New England and all of that down south. And it turned around and drive all the way back. And I was thinking to myself, I said, it's gonna be very interesting to see how many students returned to, to the traditional school once this whole thing is over. And people were saying, What do you mean, and I said, I'm basing it on three things. I said, number one, for the first time, parents are going to realize and be horrified by what their children are being subjected to in the classroom, what they're being taught, and some of the just absolute crazy nonsense. Number two, how far behind some of their kids are in certain subjects that they shouldn't be. And number three, when they sit down, and can concentrate on their on their project for the day reading or an assignment, that they can actually be done with everything than two to three hours and have the rest of the day to create to play to to be a kid and grow up instead of being in some institution for eight hours a day, 40 hours a week, five days, five days a week. So yeah, well,

Brian Nichols  
how about this? Because I think as we go towards the tail end of the episode here, I am going to tease this before we go into this, I think folks are hearing what we're outlining today. And they're like, Yeah, I want to get involved. I want to get motivated to help change things right. And I guess, laying out that blueprint, what's the best blueprint, I'm going to ask Chad for you to give us your best case scenario of what folks can, I guess bring forward to help make some real change. But first, we gotta go ahead and pay the bills. Which means we gotta go ahead and give a shout out to today's sponsor, cardio miracle. I am a huge cardio miracle believer I've been using it for about four and a half months now and folks, you hear me say every episode the cardio miracle difference is real. So if you are like me and you want boundless energy, optimal heart health and of course, a fresh start, look no further than cardio miracle because this revolutionary natural supplement increases nitric oxide levels to help relax your blood vessels, reduce your blood pressure and strengthen your cardiovascular system. So by boosting circulation and blood flow cardio miracle delivers more oxygen and nutrients to your body cells, which means you're going to feel the difference with enhanced energy, reduced fatigue, better sleep, enhanced sexual health and of course protected heart function. And optimized nitric oxide levels lead to lower inflammation as well. So if you want to join the 1000s of other folks who have transformed their health with cardio miracle, visit cardio miracle.com I'm today and use code TB N S for 15% off your purchase, make the choice to take charge of your heart health, inexperienced renewed energy and embrace a healthier, happier life powered by cardio miracle one more time cardio miracle.com code TNS at checkout for 15% off your order, your heart will thank you. And oh, by the way, there's a money back guarantee. So you literally have nothing to lose 52 ingredients all in one drink, the finest heart health supplement in the world, cardio miracle.com code TBS at checkout. All right chatter. What can we do? What can the average person listening today? What can they do to help change the way that their kids are learning or maybe to help make an impact in their school districts to help maybe make some impacts in just a normal kid's life that's in their lives? What would you make as a recommendation there?

Chad Stewart  
Yeah, and I mean, childhood, obviously, is the most absolutely important, influential time, you know, of a person's life and starting at a young age five, to six to seven. And so you know, there's some good schools out there, there's some good public schools, there's some good private schools, I would monitor to monitor them like crazy, you know, if you're happy with the school and your child's doing well, that's great, but most of them are just they keep going off the reservation. And I would really recommend homeschooling I think people think, oh, you know, both of us work, we can't stay home. And I think homeschooling is changed so dramatically, that literally, instead of dropping them off at a school, you can drop them off at a homeschool group. And so there's so many different varieties for the homeschool model. That's incredible. And I would just say, you know, give it a try for a semester or for a year, and see how your child does and how they flourish and how they transform. But with that said, on the educational standpoint, I don't think you can spend enough time with your kids doing fun things and creative things. Even if just once a week and like Saturday afternoons is always Family Day. And maybe you guys go to the park and you just play, maybe go down to the beach or the lakefront and you walk the shore, you look at trees, you look at, you know, birds, you just have fun, you explore, you go to museums, you go to downtown city, you look at some of the architecture, you start doing creative exercises, maybe you guys get together and you write a book and you say this month, we're going to put together a short story. Where does it take place, who's our main character, and you just start having fun like that, trust me, you'll have a great time, but your kids will be so impacted the one thing that because it because all the other stuff about nonsense about the brain or genetics, that's all that's all nonsense, oh, my kid wasn't born. Most kids are all born the same way. They're all born creative. They're all they're all born extraordinary. They all have wonderful gifts, but they can never, if you don't give them opportunities to find their gift to find their voice to find that, that thing that really hits home, then there'll be lost in the matrix, if you will, and end up working at some horribly boring job. And so by giving by giving them opportunities, opportunities is the key thing and everything I said right now is it throwing money at it, you know, if you have money, great, you know, take him on a wonderful trip across the United States. Or maybe you guys if you live in California, you can drive all the way up, you know, coast highway, and you know, just see, see as much as you can do as much as you can. Because I guarantee you these type of things will impress on them eight, 910 years old for the rest of them live for the rest of their lives, and will influence them it was that sixth grade class, that teacher that gave us an assignment to write a book, 25 pages, you know, yikes, right. But it was a paragraph and a picture and stuff. And I'm not a writer, and I wasn't much of a reader. But I sat down and I learned to write what I love and what I know. And that was I love James Bond movies. And so my first official book was James Bond, eat your heart out. And here I am 40 years later, launching a global series. And it was because of that opportunity that I found a voice I found that it was fun to write. And it was fun to create. And, and that stuck with me, I didn't finish the assignment and think I'm gonna be an author. But it was there that seed was planted. And what you want to do right now is you want to see if you want to plant those seeds, you know, if they want to play a musical instrument go out and rent one, if they get burned out after three weeks, get them another one. You know, get them an easel if they want to paint, you know, if they get burned out fantastic. Then give them something else. You know, just just give them as many opportunities and instruments and things and spend time with them and have fun with them and put that creativity back into them if they're not getting it at school and even if they are, you know, build on it. So,

Brian Nichols  
Chad, I really can't thank you enough for joining us today. This. This is probably one of the most important episodes we've had here in the show in recent memory. And here's why folks, this will be my final thoughts. We we lose the future when we don't address the future. So the future is our kids. And if we're not going out and trying to set not just the example. But to model that example for our children like you outlined there, Chad going through having that Saturday where you spend time with your kids. I love the idea of writing a story. That's so easy, just like go to chat GPT and be like Create a story framework for you know, three fifths, it's like, where's the creativity, let's have some fun, be with the family, and really not just help teach your kid how to be creative, but build memories. Because when you fast forward 50 years, it's not going to be you know, the random night, you know, the dinner you had that the that got burned, or you know that the time you were late to the, you know, the one meeting, what you're gonna think about is the time you're sitting with your kids, and you're, you're making these memories. And, and that's what matters, right? It's not, it's not the other the other stuff. And frankly, we want our kids to be able to 50 years from now be able to model that for their kids and their grandkids. And we don't want that to get lost. I mean, I constantly use this example. Like I'll say, Hey, folks, think of your great, great, great three great grandfather, tell me about him, Get deer in the headlights look. And I'm like that right there. That is the problem. That's where I get scared. Because we have become so focused on. It's like this first person identity syndrome, where it's like, we are the first person in our own book. And we think that only what we do matters. But what really matters is the legacy that we leave in the impact we leave to help kids, the future, learn how to help their kids in the future, continue being creative and to continue building really the foundational pillars of society. And that is the family structure, right? It is not the one individual. It is not a mass, like blob of gray collective. It is it is the pillars of the society that we built up around the family. And that is so crucial. It's so important. Chad, I'm so thankful that you joined us today to talk about that. And frankly, I think it's super important for folks like you who have that creative bug in the in the gift of being able to sit down and articulate our ideas into just a great story that anybody can pick up digest and feel like yeah, this is something that I can see myself and because it isn't fantastical, it isn't, you know, again, it's not wizards in space with with lightsabers and magic wands, but rather, it's real people making a real impact in our real world. That's my final thoughts. Chad, you have any thoughts on your end?

Chad Stewart  
Yeah, just one of my favorite quotes is by Amelia Earhart. She says, What to dreams, no boundaries. And I just love that, you know, take remove the words No, and don't and can't from your vocabulary and figure out ways to do things. And that's what we've done with Brookfield, you know, it's like, it's like, it's like, we're like, we're like a trendsetter. And so many things that we're doing and is like, well, you don't do it that way. And it's like, Well, why not? And I think we're at that time in history right now that it's just like, just go for it. And, and don't follow, don't follow the norm. You know what I mean? If you have an idea, you know, pursue that idea. Check us out@brookfield.com. Our website, it's an award winning website, if you if you buy a book one and you're reading through it, it's great because we got over 400 pictures of England, all the places that Thomas Eric go, we have interactive maps, over 100 pages of information, if you buy on the website, you get a signed book, I won't be doing too much of that, because we're getting busy with the movie and our global tours. But check us out support us, you know, we love your feedback. I just received an email from from a older woman in the Netherlands that just we shipped out book for book three to her. And she says I absolutely love the Brookfield series. I've never read anything like it can't wait to you're over here in the bookstores. We had a 93 year old woman that read it in five hours, you know, we had, we had we have students from all over the world that are just you know, coming back so excited with the book forthcoming and I just I love it I love that we're hitting our target our V Chet just just to build on what you said our beach has always been elementary and middle school, you know, we're invested in the next generation of kids. And so if your call to current current affairs and politics right now, so be it, do the best you can and fight until the end. You know, anything worth anything of value takes a lot of time. And the same thing isn't with your kids of course, you know, but it's just like that doesn't work or they're not engaged find something that engages in finding something that works.

Brian Nichols  
Chad Stewart it has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you for joining us and folks, thank you for listening. If you enjoyed today's episode, you know the drill go ahead and give it a share. When you do please tag yours truly over on x as well as over on Facebook at B Nichols Liberty Chad where can folks go ahead and find you they want to continue the conversation but also we're gonna go ahead and purchase their copy of Brookfield today

Chad Stewart  
yeah brookfield.com website screen and right we're on Amazon it's easy I get that but you don't get a signed copy if you go to Amazon but but you know, but appreciate it and appreciate the support and and then and then Barnes and Noble pretty much all all platforms. The book is available and actually next year will start rolling into all major bookstores. As libraries, we're in a lot of libraries. Now we're in 1000s of schools across the nation. But ones actually being taught in hundreds of schools right now this semester, because we have a 83 page study guide. It's designed to teach in the classroom or home homeschool. So, yeah, get the kids engaged. It's fun. We have, we have parents that are like that have created the field board game out of out of the book. We I surprised a 13 year old student and her parents for her 13th birthday a couple of weeks ago. And she was like, just blown away. They're like, would you come to her, you know, come to lunch and surprise her because I'm like, I'm her favorite author. But fields are favorite series, which is a huge honor. That she's like, Yeah, we started a Brookfield club with my friends. And we play the characters. And I just love when the book takes on its own life, because that's the idea of it, right? I'm gonna write the best story I possibly can. But kids pick up things and they want to get involved. We had, we had this one, one reader. She's like 12 years old. And she created her, she turned her room into a explore room. And I just thought, how cool is that events, got a bunch of maps and stuff. And so I love the type of real authentic, creative impact we're having on kids, because that's our focus.

Brian Nichols  
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